Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Feb 2018 01:02 UTC
Windows

Windows 10 S, the Microsoft Store-only version of Windows, is going away, but not really.

Currently, Windows 10 S is a unique edition of Windows 10. It's based on Windows 10 Pro; Windows 10 Pro has various facilities that enable system administrators to restrict which software can be run, and Windows 10 S is essentially a preconfigured version of those facilities. In addition to locking out arbitrary downloaded programs, it also prevents the use of certain built-in Windows features such as the command-line, PowerShell, and Windows Subsystem for Linux.

For those who can't abide by the constraints that S imposes, you can upgrade 10 S to the full 10 Pro. This upgrade is a one-shot deal: there's no way of re-enabling the S limitations after upgrading to Pro. It's also a paid upgrade: while Microsoft offered it as a free upgrade for a limited time for its Surface Laptop, the regular price is $49.

Nothing much actually seems to be changing; it just turns Windows 10 S from a version into a mode. Pretty much a distinction without a difference. My biggest issue here is that you can't go from regular Windows 10 back to Windows 10 S if you ever had a reason to do so (e.g. if Windows were ever to be usable with just Metro apps in the future and you want the additional security Windows 10 S provides). Seems like an odd restriction.

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RE[2]: Mission creep is afoot
by Alfman on Wed 7th Feb 2018 07:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Mission creep is afoot"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

avgalen,

Don't spread FUD!
OEMs will not be required to enable it by default, they will be tempted by Microsoft to enable S mode by making S mode free/cheap


So you're suggesting microsoft will bribe OEMs instead? I guess we'll see what happens.

At least the home users can elect to turn off the s-restrictions on their own devices for now, but what did I tell you last time? As restrictions are gradually phased in, they become the new normal.


This current S mode idea means that I will still stick with my previous advice.
* Install Windows
* Add several non-store-apps that you really need
* Go to Settings, Apps, Apps & features, change "Installing apps" to "Allow apps from the Store only"
* Add store-apps for everying you want
* When you find out that you need another non-store-app, just change the setting back to "Allow apps from anywhere" temporarily"

The above idea is equivalent to making yourself a regular user instead of an admin. Of course you could just leave that setting on "Warn me before installing apps from outside the Store" which is equivalent to using UAC/sudo


I agree, the way you want to use it is much better than "S-mode", however it isn't as useful to microsoft's agenda. Everyone agrees that security is important, but it must align with the owner's wishes, otherwise it's taking owner rights away, which is obviously what I'm against. I'm ok with security that works with us rather than against us.


I realise that S mode is about more than just installing non-store-apps, but that part is the only part that I think benefits users. Well, that and the lower future prices but we will have to see about that


It only benefits users if they aren't interested in 3rd party software, otherwise it's an impediment. Keep in mind that s-mode blocks other consumer friendly stores like steam.

Edited 2018-02-07 07:14 UTC

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