Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Feb 2018 01:02 UTC
Windows

Windows 10 S, the Microsoft Store-only version of Windows, is going away, but not really.

Currently, Windows 10 S is a unique edition of Windows 10. It's based on Windows 10 Pro; Windows 10 Pro has various facilities that enable system administrators to restrict which software can be run, and Windows 10 S is essentially a preconfigured version of those facilities. In addition to locking out arbitrary downloaded programs, it also prevents the use of certain built-in Windows features such as the command-line, PowerShell, and Windows Subsystem for Linux.

For those who can't abide by the constraints that S imposes, you can upgrade 10 S to the full 10 Pro. This upgrade is a one-shot deal: there's no way of re-enabling the S limitations after upgrading to Pro. It's also a paid upgrade: while Microsoft offered it as a free upgrade for a limited time for its Surface Laptop, the regular price is $49.

Nothing much actually seems to be changing; it just turns Windows 10 S from a version into a mode. Pretty much a distinction without a difference. My biggest issue here is that you can't go from regular Windows 10 back to Windows 10 S if you ever had a reason to do so (e.g. if Windows were ever to be usable with just Metro apps in the future and you want the additional security Windows 10 S provides). Seems like an odd restriction.

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RE[3]: Mission creep is afoot
by avgalen on Wed 7th Feb 2018 09:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Mission creep is afoot"
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At least the home users can elect to turn off the s-restrictions on their own devices for now, but what did I tell you last time? As restrictions are gradually phased in, they become the new normal.

Last time you mentioned force and this time you mentioned force on OEMs as well. I always debate you on that part of your statement because for the most part we agree otherwise. I have no problem with gradually phasing in restrictions if they are optional or beneficial. I believe that the market (supported by the law) will make sure that such restrictions will only become the new normal if people accept them.

Currently I couldn't do what I want to do on a computer in S-mode so I use "Full mode".
My parents prefer a couple of non-store-apps but nothing more so I locked their pc down with the above procedure.
My kids should use S-mode.
1 or 2 years from now I expect that the programs my parents use will be either available through the store or that the store has good alternatives so I will move them over to S-mode.
A few years later my kids will desire to use some more programs (Lego Creator for MindStorms pops into my mind) that aren't in the store so I will switch them over to Full Mode, locked down and as a regular user of course.
And maybe in a few years I will just dock my completely managed-and-store-only-phone into some device that turns it into a terminal that I connect to my work environment with all my non-store-tools.
My point is...Options!

Just like before I would like to emphasize that S mode is not replacing anything but is an added option. More options, more choice, better for everyone.
There wasn't an S-mode for Home or Enterprise, but now there will be. I wouldn't put that on my own laptop but I would be more than happy to put it on my childrens (future) tablet/laptop, especially if that means that device will be cheaper.

The moment "Full Mode" is no longer an option I will be right there with you, kicking and screaming.
I hope all of this will go in the complete opposite direction though, with both client and server Windows SKU's (and now modes) going away entirely and instead we will get a "basic" package similar to Home-in-S-mode with "option packages" that you pay for (because Microsoft isn't a charity)
* Old fashioned domain
* Hyper-V
* WebServer
* RDS
* Server Roles
* IE/Edge
* XPS/PDF

Off-Topic: I would not consider giving OEMs an extra choice for a cheaper (but limited) version of Windows a bribe, but I looked up a definition and it does fit!
Bribery is the act of giving money, goods or other forms of recompense to a recipient in exchange for an alteration of their behavior that the recipient would otherwise not alter

This definition also means that if 1 liter of milk is 1 Euro, 2 liter of milk should be 2 Euro to avoid being called bribery. I wouldn't buy the bigger packaging in most situations, but if the price would be lowered to 1.5 and I would buy now I have apparently been bribed

Edited 2018-02-07 09:55 UTC

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