Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 14th Dec 2005 06:58 UTC, submitted by dylansmrjones
Amiga & AROS "Back in the old days of the original AmigaOS, the system used to allocate areas of unused memory to new tasks was pretty simple. The old method served its purpose well enough at the time, but with the increased demands of modern computing - and of course the desire to bring this new version of the operating system to the cutting edge - AmigaOS4.0 has introduced a better way of doing things."
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Raffaele
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2005-11-12

Mr. DevL wrote:

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but when comparing the chipsets needed to turn respective CPU into a fully fledged desktop computer there's every reason to pick an x86 over a PowerPC.
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It is only a matter of producing different solutions in chipsets.
The market will choice the best ones who will serve PPC motherboards and other hardware PPC based.

Sure unfortunately FIRST PPC chipsets were bugged, or unreliable, or had some problems (such as those from MAI, the infamous Articia chipset). These chipsets suffered some flaws, but actual chipsets for PPC are quite stable and reliable.

There are actually four different chipsets: Apple chipsets, Tundra chipsets, IBM chipsets, and Marvell Chipsets.

This fact gives a vaste opportunity to choice PPC chipset of reference for any kind of PPC motherboards.

PPC based solutions manufacturing firms for have now the chance to choice chipset they want to implement to.

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Show me any other PowerPC based system than Apple's that support tecnologies such as PCI-Express and DDR2 RAM.
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Freescale based HPC I & II (High performance Computer) were adapted by Genesi to implement their Open Firmware and are now capable to run Pegasos based versions of PPC Linux and even MorphOS.

HPC I is based on Marvell III chipset.
HPC II is based on Tundra TS 108 chipset.

Both chipset support DDR2 RAM SATA and PCI-Express.

Evaluation motherboards are ready and solid silicon (true hardware)

Hope that one of these motherboards could satisfy enough Genesi engineers (expecially Hardware Guru Gerald Carda) to be elected as Pegasos III for the market.
You know it. Germans are very perfectionists and evaluate hardware quite a looong time before choicing it.

But take a look at the photos if you don't believe me these motherboards exist and peek a spot on their bus slots and SATA connectors.

http://www.pegasosppc.com/image.php?id=1499

http://www.pegasosppc.com/image.php?id=1487

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Heck, the AmigaONE and the Pegasos are still stuck at SDRAM memory, not to mention the fact that while the AmigaONE got a slow AGP-bus, the Pegasos haven't even got a proper AGP-bus at all but is rather using some sort of turbocharged PCI-slot and an AGP-to-PCI bridge.
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This shows that you are not informed at all on Amiga.
So I wonder why you posted these erroneous informations.
Only to made some terrorism and scare potential buyers?

By the way Pegasos II supported DDR RAM since 2001.

I know it because last spring I got a Pegasos II G3 machine...

...And again to mention it, AGP slot on it is diverted from PCI.

This is just because ancient Marvell II chipset still does not support AGP natively.

But I remember you that even design of AGP slot on other platforms is a modify originated from PCI standard specifications.



Finally, still regarding the main problem you risen (lack of good chipsets aimed at PPC):

If you take a look on new PPC CPU such as 8641 from Freescale (which is about to be launched on the market) you could find that these new PPC processors have a chipset included into its die in a SoC (System on Chip) solution.
This avoids use of external chipsets which could reveal themselves less reliable than expected.

It has been stated that new Pegasi will made extensive use of SoC CPUs.

And Genesi demonstrated it keeps its promises.

Pegasos Efika sublaptop launced on the market just last week it is based on SoC PPC CPU MPC5200B.

Take a look on Efika specs right here on OSNEWS or directly on GenesiPPC site.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12824

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12871

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12923

http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php

It is a first step to avoid use of third made parties chipsets in the PPC world.

Edited 2005-12-15 12:47

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