Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Dec 2005 23:44 UTC, submitted by Lazarus
BSD and Darwin derivatives Fans of DragonFly BSD will be getting their Christmas present late this year, and plans for 1.5 have been announced. MP safe networking code, the long awaited cache coherency management system, and a port of Sun's ZFS. Read here for more. Update: Refresh, empty cache, whatever, and check the shiny new beastie icon! And there was much rejoicing. Can we now please discuss DragonFly BSD?
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In regard to the debate about the FreeBSD icon, I must say that Eugenia was very opinionated as editor of this site, and whenever her opinion solidified on a matter, she would not budge, but when she expressed her opinion, she sounded rational. Her arguments made sense, even if you disagreed with them. I must say I think putting all the BSDs in a single, general BSD category makes the most sense. Thom, I'm sorry but you haven't articulated your to the satisfaction of your readers. Maybe we all are in the dark, but frankly, I think you are being immature and childish.

You have two ways you can run the site: you can listen to the feedback the members of OSNews give you, or you can dictate the policy based on any irrational whim. You could justify the current icon system to your readers' intellectual satisfaction by saying "because I said so," but please don't pretend that your argument makes sense. If the form of the website is dictated by self-centric feelings, rather than thoughtful rational design, you run the risk of alienating your readers,
because a tech news site is a poor example of a space where feelings are paramount. If you want a personal web space, I can suggest one to you:

Though I can't offer any sort of objective "betterness" measure, the consensus here stands STRONGLY against your argument, and strongly FOR the creation of a general BSD category. They are all derived from a common code base, and continue to carry the BSD moniker. Additionally, and probably most importantly, they all occupy a certain mindspace for the readers of your site. I can scant think of FreeBSD without association to the other BSDs.

Claiming that the FreeBSD folks would balk at this idea presumes their immaturity. Frankly, I don't believe you they would have any problem whatsoever with this. If the developers of FreeBSD were all clones of Theo DeRaadt, then we might have a situation, but there's no reason to postulate about negative feedback which is only marginally likely, when the readers of your site have given you real honest-to-goodness feedback.

Upon a second reading of your posts, I realize the problem with the FreeBSD logo. The problem is really that no logo has been formalized as an offical common BSD logo. De facto, though, they all have a demon, or similar as their mascots. STILL has the beastie on the front site, so it gives credibility to the notion that we can easily designate the BSDs as a group with a demon.

This is all intended as constructive criticism, Thom. I thank you for all of the hard work you and others have put into OSNews. The new moderation system is great! I hope to see you grow as an editor, and I hope that this disagreement between you and the members of OSNews finds a resolution that is satisfactory to all, even if it's not exactly what everyone wanted. (Your more mature readers will understand the necessity of compromise.)

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