Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Jul 2005 21:21 UTC
Java IBM has begun participating in open-source Java project Harmony and intends to contribute code to the initiative, according to a Big Blue executive.
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RE[3]: Why not Mono?
by segedunum on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 12:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not Mono?"
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mere fact that windows is going almost all .NET for future programming means that Mono will be a player, one way or another.

I also love how people make this giant magical leap from Microsoft's .Net usage translating into the usage of Mono on other platforms.

With what's happening around Eclipse now you can say that Java is definitely making a comeback on the desktop. And, because here's the distinction, there is more meaningful real-world development going on with Eclipse and Java than there is with Mono. Notice I didn't say .Net, I said Mono, because they're two different things. If people are developing for .Net they are using Microsoft's technology, not Mono's, and I think that's the crucial difference many people just cannot get their heads around. Microsoft .Net usage simply does not translate into people using Mono, that much has become very clear.

Look, it isn't happening and I've already pointed out that the companies with the money aren't going anywhere near it (this article is about IBM's involvement). There is simply no market for Mono in the real world that matters, and after several years of viewing the market, viewing the people who are involved and viewing Novell's actual usage of it in their products and organisation, from a business perspective you've got to say that it simply isn't viable.

Saying that Mono will be a player one way or another doesn't make a blind bit of difference. How is it going to happen, and why?

More and more java people are amazed by the simplicity of Rails development.

Yer, and? Is Ruby a .Net or Mono technology? Ruby is more of a player in the application server space now than ASP.Net on Mono ever will be, and relatively speaking, it's been around for a much, much shorter time period. But, Java is still where the lion's share of the market is. That's the be-all and end-all here.

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