Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Feb 2006 19:11 UTC
Debian and its clones MEPIS, one of the more popular Debian-derived distributions, may be moving in a new direction soon. MEPIS founder Warren Woodford is considering building future MEPIS releases from Ubuntu sources rather than from Debian. SimplyMEPIS 3.4-3, which is scheduled for release today, has been quite a challenge to build, according to Woodford. "It's taking up all my time, fighting the Etch pool... We've had a lot of trouble, because the Debian community has become so active, it's been difficult to get this out, so I'm looking at alternatives to getting out stable releases."
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Quote: "Debian would still live on as Ubuntu because Ubuntu _is_ Debian."

Umm no. Ubuntu is Debian based. It is not Debian. That's like saying you have two non identical brothers, but saying that they're the same.

Quote: "Perhaps it's just because you don't like Ubuntu because it's popular, and because it is encroaching on Debian's turf."

I don't like Ubuntu for a variety of reasons, strangely enough, popularity isn't one of them. Nice try and putting your words into my mouth.

Quote: "Instead of embracing the more popular distro, I'm going to bite my nose to spite my face and switch to another unknown distro!"

Really? I actually use a rather well known, and well respected Debian based distribution. I'll leave you to research it and figure it out.

Quote: "Linux will _never_ succeed (at least in the desktop world) being so damned fractionalized."

I disagree. Linux won't succeed because Microsoft will never be punished for being a monopolist, not at least by the current US regime. Until the playing ground is truly even, and Microsoft is actually behaving itself, and hardware manufacturers aren't afraid to support another operating system other than Microsoft, Linux will not get anywhere. If I were to say that the US government is deliberately sabotaging Linux and open source, in order to keep Microsoft going, and of course, the revenue that it brings into the US economy, I wouldn't be too far from the truth. Linux is much more a world based operating system, and that doesn't really help the US economy. Remember, most IT and software based firms are US owned, and US based. The US wants to keep that stranglehold on the world IT related market, because it means income coming into the already overloaded US economy.

Quote: " think it would be _far_ more constructive for people to work on existing, popular distros than to create their own"

You're obviously one of the new breed of Linux users. Linux was always about choice. I'll say it again for you, so you can comprehend it - choice. That's why Linux, and open source software is so special. Who are you to dictate that we all should just use one type of software in each area? It is the one thing that I particularly dislike about Ubuntu.

Quote: " Monopolies are _not_ always bad for business. Monopolies are bad for business when they start abusing their monopoly position to better their position at the cost of their competitors."

Every monopolist abuses their monopoly. It just takes some time for people to start noticing it. Note how Microsoft is a monopolist, and is still successfully employing the same monopolist and anti competitive behaviour without penalty. Does that really make you wonder? My belief is you never give something the chance to become a monopoly, because once it has a monopoly share of the market, it's only a matter of time before it becomes a monopoly. Better to avoid the temptation in the first place, no?

Quote: "That is why there are laws against that sort of business practice."

Very funny. Those laws aren't very good are they? Let's see, the current US regime isn't very happy with what the Europeans are doing about Microsoft and it's monopolistic and anti competitive behaviour, aren't they? One law for the rich, and one law for everyone else. No thanks, that's not my idea of a responsible society.

Quote: "This would stifle growth and innovation because companies would be in fear of becoming so popular and inadvertently crushing all their competition because their product was better"

Bullshit. Competition is good, monopolies destroy competition.


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