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First, not to belittle Novells compiz+XGL. I don't. I'm still picking up my jaws from the floor ever since I saw it.
Why is it RedHat always seems to take a "not invented here" approach to advances developed outside of RedHat?
Because those two are different, read
http://freedesktop.org/~krh/aiglx.pdf
Another work from RH here:
http://people.freedesktop.org/~ajax/xdc2006.pdf
And fairly connected from the Sun
http://mediacast.sun.com/share/alanc/xdevconf06-fbpm.pdf
Again presentations from NVidia
http://download.nvidia.com/developer/presentations/2006/xdevconf/nv...
http://download.nvidia.com/developer/presentations/2006/xdevconf/co...
more here (hackfesting at XDC)
http://anholt.livejournal.com/
or at least the part where he says about AIGLX being non-implemented plan for 5 years already
This is correct approach (at least in my opinion) to this problem. Novell went for faster implementation to get the same result and RH went for more politicaly correct implementation where even Novells solution could still reside with not so many modifications but suddenly with a politicaly correct status and the same effect.
And if you read this papers you can see how nicely all works stack up ( PowerManagment(Sun) + X Deconstruction(RH) ) => Indirect GLX or NVida presentations => (Composite manager of your choice: Compiz, Metacity or some other) => hopefully what we all wish for
In the end result should be the same as now with Compiz+GLX, except everything should "Just work" instead of "Maybe if you're lucky" like it is now
As for people saying XeGL being the right solution. Well, yes it is. But unfortunatelly just as much as saying NVidia driver is the right one for your card (yes, it works if your card is NVidia. Otherwise? Well, your X sucks major since it doesn't work). XeGL depends on hardware that can drive the needed resources (in this case GL support, read NVidia paper for better info) while AIGLX overlays X and works without GL support too. You simply have to disable it, nothing else.
All this appears to be is Yet Another Acceleration of X development.
Yes, probably seems so. But after you study XDevConf papers, not really. At least I see it as politicaly correct solution.
Could time be better spent on improving XGL, which (based on the notes in that thread) is more stable, applicable to more hardware, and a better implementation?
Probably, if Novell wouldn't choose to work closed session. But projects still differentiate quite a lot.