Linked by Stuart MacKenzie on Wed 2nd Jul 2003 18:31 UTC
Apple Are you a long time Windows user curious about the Apple Switch campaign? Are you wondering if you should try it? Read below for my experience with the whole thing... twice. Just over a week ago I purchased a new 12" Apple PowerBook G4...
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RE:Anonymous (IP: 12.105.181.---)
by Wrawrat on Fri 4th Jul 2003 07:24 UTC

No, I don't believe that. However, I would say that every company does use marketing to make their product look as best as it can even if that marketing is deceptive. Thankfully, Apple's information is both science and marketing.

Err. You sound like a fanboy, so I already know that it's pointless to argue with you, but what the hell...

The very notion that SPEC benchmarks have been held as the ultimate authority to determine speed when Intel used a compiler that was made to do nothing more than pump out the highest SPEC benchmark may not have been "cheating" but it did weigh heavily on the minds of the ignorant computer-using public. It finally took a HUGE increase in speed (delievered by the G5) to outpace even Intel's pumped up numbers.

AFAIK, the SPEC numbers for the P4/XEON that Apple used didn't came from ICC, but from GCC, so how can you say that they outpaced their pumped up numbers? Btw, real applications are using ICC, so it's hardly a compiler *only* for SPEC benchmarketing.

On that token, Apple has done similar things regarding benchmarks which weren't "cheating" but did weigh heavily on the ignorance of the computing public.

Right... Like what?

However, the G5 is not cheating or over-inflating its numbers. It is genuinly THAT fast.

Let's see... Did you tried the machine? No? Then you believe claims that comes straight from Jobs' mouth. Maybe it's as fast as they claim, but we can't test it, so we can only believe their numbers. Keyword: believe. Perhaps they are right, but you and I don't really know how good they are because we didn't tested them. I'll only believe reports from independent reviewers, and I don't consider the report they got from Veritest (is that the name? I don't remember) and that they have paid for as "independant".

Im simply correcting false statements. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything.
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You don't have to buy an Apple display for a Mac you know, just like you don;t have to buy an Apple display for a PC. if you were to do so however, and also spec'd out both systems with the exact same (or as close as possible) hardware and software configurations, the mac will either be slightly more, the same price, slightly less, or significantly less.


I like this argument. In the end, it depends where you live. Macs tend to be really expensive here, especially the low-end ones. The only exception is the Dual G5 2GHz (the price/performance ratio seems great), but it's not in my price range, anyway.