Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 13th Nov 2003 05:19 UTC
Fedora Core Fedora Core 1 has been out now for a few days now and many faithful Linux fans have already installed it. Red Hat's Linux is still one of my favorite distributions because of one main reason: compatibility with Linux software. Red Hat is a market leader and following the market leader assures the least trouble for most users. But is this the case with Fedora Core?
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Re: Fedora
by Antarius on Thu 13th Nov 2003 02:36 UTC

Alex:
Out of curiosity why was KDE just barely touched on this review? KDE is one of the leading desktop environments for Linux and it comes installed with jsut about any distribution of Linux by default, including in Fedora.

Erm... Okay. We must be using a different Fedora - I have to specifically choose to install KDE by putting a tiny tick in the appropriate box.

That is hardly what I would consider "by default."

And despite the fact that I was a big KDE fan from 1997 through to 2002, I choose not to install KDE on my Fedora boxen. Why? Because I find that the Fedora/RedHat tools are aimed more towards Gnome. I also find Gnome to be slicker and neater for what I need it for.

One DE on the server makes life a lot easier for my users - sure, they are "unified," however my users are concerned if they have too much choice! ;)

I feel that it is appropriate to only review the Gnome environment if you are reviewing it from a default installation - since it is the default!


Erwos:
Give the user community some time to improve - it's rapidly progressing with a merger of four major RPM repositories.

I agree - the real benefits of the community development has not had enough time to blossom. The Fedora Core release was extremely rushed - probably to make the most of hype and publicity.

The improvements over RH9 were small in number (relatively speaking - I don't want to start a whole RH9 should have been RH8 debate again!) however they are welcome on my box. I find Fedora to be smooth, "pretty" and significantly more responsive than RH8. (Yeah, I bought RH9 workstation, but it never got high enough on my priority list to bother upgrading before FC1 was released!)


Maynard:
The dominant operating system in the world comes with neither DVD player, or movie codecs besides Microsoft's own like wmv. It does not come with mp3 encoding capabilities either.

That's right. It doesn't come with an office suite, tonnes of games, server applications etc either.

The thing seems to be that we [OSS users] have gotten spoiled. We're used to having things handed to us on a platter by the major distros.

I'm not saying this is wrong: I love the way that RH8 through FC1 has slotted right into the enterprise from a default install. Many kudos are needed!

But this efficiency has come at a price; people expect the distro to be everything for everyone.

It's all about the target market - what was the target market of the RH8/9 product offering? The enterprise workstation. Not a games machine. Not a multimedia box. Hell, it's not even pushed for servers, really! (How many serious servers need the footprint of RedHat/Fedora's non-X installations?!)


Yes, in time, I would love to see some of the multimedia offerings available as a choice on the installation.

I've come to grips with RedHat's "OSS Only" policy & can understand their reasoning.

What might be a nice compromise would be an extra (perhaps non-official) ISO (ala Mandrake), or even an option in "first boot" to "Install UnOfficial Packages" with links to the appropriate repositories and packages there. It could easily be integrated to provide the best of both worlds.


dv:
Yeah - compat-libstdc++ really should have been installed by default.

That one has puzzled me since RH8. Was there a rational reason mentioned for this decision? Did I miss something?


Only the poor souls that can't get ADSL. I switched from Telstra cable to ADSL to escape their restrictive (and expensive!) plans.

Try living in "Region 2." Competition hasn't helped ADSL out here - the best plans for metro areas are as much as $50/mth more in Region 2 - if they even have the service available!

But let's not get started on Telstra, shall we? I'll rant too much for the 8,000 character limit! ;-)


You could have downloaded it for free from your ISPs download site. (files.bigpond.com)

Erk! I was unaware of that. Well, lesson learned! (Bring on FC2! ;-)

Actually, if it doesn't count as part of my bandwidth, then the fact that the above option is available makes it viable for me to stay with Telstra. I mean, I don't download mp3's, divx et al.

(Even though I'm into OSS - which seems to be synonymous with piracy, at least to our federal government and ARIA)


> Promise's support is abysmal ...
They have just recently started helping kernel developers improve the opensource drivers. About time.


Hear, hear. Again, I would like, if not beg for, ATARAID support in anaconda. That factor will improve installations dramatically!