Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 6th Dec 2003 19:42 UTC, submitted by Tom Curtis
SCO, Caldera, Unixware IBM won a tactical victory Friday in a legal battle with SCO Group when a judge ordered SCO to show within 30 days the Linux software to which it believes it has rights and to point out where it believes IBM is infringing.
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Re: @archie_steel
by Roberto J. Dohnert on Sun 7th Dec 2003 22:08 UTC

<< I think you're being a little harsh here. Making a hypothesis based on conjecture may not lead very far, but I'd hardly call them "ramblings of crackpot zealots." Again, there seems to be a lot of hostility in these words. SCO hasn't shown any more proof that there is stolen code in Linux, and yet you seem more ready to give them the benefit of the doubt! Regarding MS's involvement, it would be a safer to simply state that there's no evidence at this point to corroborate this scenario. >>

Yes I am ready to give SCO the benefit of the doubt because yes I do believe there is some form of copyright infringement in Linux. It exists with large corporations and the larger a code base grows, the harder it is to say you are 100% certain that infringements do not exist. Has SCO blown it out of proportion, yes I believe they have, I dont think its a million lines of code. Was the infringement done purposely? No I dont think so. When you get hundreds of thousands of developers working on something it is not safe to believe that these people are all 100% honest, god fearing people. This is smewhat of a wakeup call. Something needs to change to keep accusaions such as this from happening again. I dont agree with many people in the community who just want life to go on like it was before. Because it cant. It is hard when you clone something to not infringe on someones copyright. I agree with SCO when they say the Open Source community needs some checks and balances. There are some project leaders that do check copyright and patent information, but more than less do not and that concerns me. The infringements will be cured and Linux can go on but It cannot go on like it was before because that would be a foolish and irresponsible thing to do. To not allow change especially to counter something such as copyright and patent infringement checks to be implemented is also very foolish. If the Open Source community wants things done as befoe i think you will see support for their software drop and that would be a bad thing to happen.

<< Frankly, I'm puzzled over your refusal to even consider that they might be involved, just because there's no hard proof. Consider this instead: if you were MS and this is what you wanted to do, wouldn't you do this in such a way as to leave no obvious traces behind? >>

I never said it was impossible just not probable, but also take into account that when something like this happens and your enemy gets involved, it ussually is the cry of the accused to blame their enemy.

If i sound hostile that is not my intent.