Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 21st May 2004 01:17 UTC
Mono Project The tomato war between Red Hat, Novell and the developer Gnome community about Mono and its legal safety continued today. Novell's Nat Friedman and Miguel de Icaza replied to yesterday's editorial by Red Hat's Seth Nickell. Later, Red Hat's Havoc Pennington replied to Nat and Gnome's Andrew Sobala also threw a few (metallic) cents too. For future episodes, bookmark PlanetGnome (unverified rumors circulating on IRC claim that eggs might be used next if there is no sign of their lawyers meeting with Microsoft to try to give an end to the saga). In any case, you don't want to miss this.
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RE: What's interesting
by Lumbergh on Fri 21st May 2004 05:22 UTC

It's even better than that.

Here's a nice quote from Havoc Pennington:
The issue here is risk management. Sure, C/C++/Python could infringe some patents. However, the risk is a heck of a lot lower. Those technologies are not invented by and driven forward by the single most powerful and open-source-hostile company in the tech industry.

And here's the translation:
"For all these years that Mono has been being developed it didn't matter if ECMA 334 and 335 were free and clear, since it was from Microsoft we were never going to touch it with a 10-foot pole."

Couple that comment with another choice comment from a redhat executive that proclaimed that it's competitive advantage of Redhat Desktop is that it's 100% opensource compared to Novell or Mandrake. So let's get this straight. I'm trying to get businessmen to buy my product and I'm saying the reason they should is because we are 100% open source. Too funny. Either this crackhead executive isn't speaking for redhat's official position or RedHat is doomed with attitudes like that.

Oh well, so now it's official. The current incarnation of Gnome being controlled by Redhat fudsters will most likely never have Mono as an official runtime AND won't even be shipped by RedHat.

The best thing to happen is for Novell to continue to do it's thing, producing apps powered by Mono and one day fork Gnome unless Java can somehow get into Gnome at some point, which seems very unlikely since it's apparently just as legally encumbered.

I'll predict that once Gnome is forked that many developers will jump ship, because whatever cobbled together crap that Havoc and crew come up with, such as gobject introspection and Python is doomed for failure.

Oh well, I'm just glad I never had an investment in any of that crap. Maybe the KDE guys will be more reasonable and not such pussies.