Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Wed 2nd Jun 2004 03:13 UTC
SUN Microsystems Sun introduced recently the second version of Java Desktop System (JDS) for a flat fee per employee/per year. We tried it and here is what we found out about:
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by Shaman on Wed 2nd Jun 2004 12:48 UTC

> System administrators already expect high-quality from Sun

No. They did once, but Sun let them down. Harshly. If you aren't aware of all the stink software that Sun unleashed on its customers, then you aren't nearly as "on the ball" as you'd like to think. Sun demolished their reputation as a software company years ago. They have Java, and Solaris, and that is *it*. Staroffice is just a modified Openoffice.org, out there for the world to work on. Many of the good things in Solaris are from other companies (Disksuite, Veritas, X, Gnome, CDE, et al). Other than their core software, Sun has nothing high-quality to offer (some would say Solaris is a creaky old mess too... UFS with hacked-in journalling... ugh...). If you work with Solaris and a well-configured Linux system, your eyes will snap open as to how kludgy Solaris is, despite all its vaunted stability.

That JDS stinks of old, patched-together software without polish surprises me absolutely not at all. My Gentoo setup is dramatically more impressive than what I've seen from JDS and I've never paid a dime for it.

FYI, I have been running NPTL on my Gentoo desktop for months now. It's been stable, I don't notice any performance hits in any software, so unless Sun knows something I don't about a NPTL-enabled OS, they're throwing Java performance out the window. And, kernel 2.6.7 is shaping up to be *the* Linux kernel... but Sun is using 2.4.19? Are they using EXT2 as their root filesystem too... or maybe EXT3 with its known problems? Feh.

> Sun Control Station can really make a difference and can
> certainly outweigh the lack of lustre compared to other
> distributions.

You can't be serious. Have you tried to use that kludge?

(read modded-down messages... I was a Sun reseller for years!)