Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 10th Oct 2004 05:47 UTC, submitted by Andrew
Slackware, Slax This is a message from Patrick Volkerding in regards to his thoughts on Gnome and Slackware. It was originally posted on the Dropline Gnome Forum. Editor's note: Pat has made similar comments to me as well regarding Gnome's bugs and maintainance problems.
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RE: SoulMaster
by csabimano on Sun 10th Oct 2004 20:26 UTC

I don't think that having two desktop environments is bad at all. I use KDE because some of the reasons you mention, but there is no way the reconcile the two project's aims.

GNOME has HIG!!! That's what we hear all the time (I have news: KDE has one as well), but more often than not, the HIG is used to justify decisions that are not in league with the user's opinions (ranging from file-dialog, now resolved, through button order to spatial nautilus). But where the two projects really differ is their stance on features, flexibility and configuration.

GNOME: make it simple! meaning: take away uneccesary features. Problem is, uneccessary is always arbitrary decided.

KDE: have as many features as possible, but organize it in a sane way. Now, there is still room for improvement in this latter area, but 3.3 is almost there.

Point is: you can't have it both ways. Also, debate is pointless on this. Ultimately, the market will decide, and thus far, it seems that KDE is doing something better. And no, it's not because KDE ~ windows & GNOME ~ MacOS. I hate this bs when I hear it. Reversing the button order and putting the panel on the top of the screen doesn't make it resemble MacOS more. By this logic, a Mac user would find him/herself more at home on a GNOME desktop. This is often not the case: http://e-scribe.com/osx/freebsd-kde-and-me/

And the most important point relating to this news and to marketshare: sometimes you have to pay attention to the developers/distributors of your program as well. Make things inconvenient for them, and there goes a distro getting fed up with your policies. Make things easy for developers/distributors, and your software will be included, even if the official (and always political: see User Linux) stance of the distro-makers is not to have your prog. included.

Besides: the (often not very) friendly competition between the GNOME and KDE is good for the development of both. Even if the aims of both projects could be reconciled, I'm not sure that development would be faster at all.