Linked by Christian Paratschek on Tue 2nd Nov 2004 16:46 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu By all means, Ubuntu Linux and Canonical Ltd. have made a spectacular arrival on the Linux scene lately. The combination is like a dream come true for many, many Linux aficionados: tightly selected bleeding edge packages to focus the distribution on a single CD, corporate backing, 18 month support, that all sounds like a formidable package.
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re: galeon and Ubuntu in general (unbiased view)
by pixelmonkey on Tue 2nd Nov 2004 22:44 UTC

Yea, that annoyed me too. I really don't like Firefox or Epiphany: I wanted "the only web," Galeon ;-). I don't know what problem you are saying you had compiling it from source. I was able to check out Galeon from CVS on my Ubuntu system, and compile it relatively easily (granted I installed all the gnome-devel libraries).

I'm a longtime Debian sid user who recently bought a laptop for chump change (An Averatec 3250, a really nice and slim notebook for those of you who want a portable but don't have the cash to shell out for a shiny Apple or even an comparively overpriced Dell). Well, I figured rather than playing with laptop stuff on my own, I'd give Ubuntu a try. On my desktop I run "Libranet," but I put that in quotes because Libranet is a 100%-Debian compatible distro, and so now I really just run plain-old Debian after upgrading to sid (I don't use Libranet's [out of date] repositories).

Ubuntu is different than Libranet in that it uses Debian as the _base_, but doesn't maintain compatibility with "pure Debian" packages. So, I'd encounter lots of problems if I tried to, say, install the package of galeon from sid or experimental repositories at debian.org. This annoys me because I've built up a good list of debian repositories over the years for new versions of packages that regularly get built, and those packages aren't usable on an Ubuntu system.

I'll give the devs credit: they really cover a shitload of packages in their base repository and in "universe," but a lot of it seems like duplicated effort (which I hate). They only make new packages for Gnome 2.8 and a few other things. (btw, Gnome 2.8 is in Debian experimental, so even that isn't a HUGE plus).

I really would have preferred if Ubuntu took the Libranet approach, but did it completely right. That is, set up a repository with new versions of lots of packages that build against most libraries present in Debian sid. Then, give users of Ubuntu a mixed sid/Ubuntu system with apt-pinning so that newer Ubuntu packages always get dselected over older sid ones. Not so tough to do, and you wouldn't need to "duplicate the universe", and you'd be compatible with debian packages.

Argh, I guess you just can never win ;-)