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* Europeans in general, tend to be more design conscious (read: generally have a more refined aeshetic and ergonomic senses) - subsequently, selling square brick PDAs masquerading as phones is unlikely to be a successful enterprise. Case in point MS based PDA cum Phone devices seem to have very small penetration - and they are unequivocally ugly.

* European markets tend to be significantly more quality conscious and less fad driven.

* I have only ever seen Palm based phones outside Europe. Palm does not enjoy world domination.

* According to every review I have seen, MS baseed phones have unacceptable battery performance - relative to MS based solutions. Proprietary solutions (which Motorola, Nokia and most other manufacturers have and use) usually are the best on this score because they have so little baggage.

* From a technical viewpoint, the Symbian OS is vastly superior to WinCE or whatever it is called this week. Motorola does have Symbian phones but in a parochial fit of peak seems to have decided to be a bit of everything, but leaning towards being MS centric these days.

* That there is increasing competion from asian manufacturers is not news in the mobile telecoms branch, or any other industry is not news. The global economy and all that. Many manufacturers are well placed to meet these competitive forces.

* There is plenty of Symbian software available.

* The Nokia 9210i is probably the remote admin's preferred alternative - SYmbian of course.

* I owned 3 different Motorola phones - they all sucked big-time.

* The SPV sucked even bigger time

* My Nokia 3310 still works just fine.

* For the record, before you start calling me euro trash or similar, I am not european.

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