Linked by Andrew Davis on Mon 22nd Nov 2004 20:12 UTC
Linspire I admit that I'm a geek. I use Linux. I use Solaris. I use FreeBSD. At times, I use Windows. And without a doubt, I download and try almost every Linux distribution when they come out. Over the last few years, I've tried all of the RedHat/Fedora releases, 2 different Lindows/Linspire releases, Mandrake, Gentoo, Xandros, Suse, Ubuntu, and the list goes on.
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@ Dark_Knight
by John Blink on Tue 23rd Nov 2004 01:50 UTC

1. Linspire lacks LSB certification which Novell and Red Hat both have.

and how does it affect there product offering.
Also does Debian use LSB?
http://help.linspire.com/cgi-bin/lindows.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.ph...

2. Linspire is not a member of the Free Standards Group but Novell and Red Hat are members.

Again how does it affect there product offering. BTW what Debian has Linspire inherits.
http://www.freestandards.org/modules.php?name=Content2&pa=showpage&...

Also Linspire is a company and if mom and pop and Joe geekiness himself needed to run Oracle or whatever, they would see if it is the best interests of all mom's and pop's.


3. Linspire does not follow simple standards such as not charging consumers to access software that is freely available with other Linux distributions.

As I said to someone before the software is free, you pay for the CNR service which is a free download (eg. You can get Linspire for free via bittorent). In this regard they are no different to the holy SUSE.

Just like SUSE this service pays there staff, sponsors KDE, Reiserfs, and anything I am not familiar with.


4. Linspire lacks a flexible EULA and seems more Microsoft like in their license offerings. Unlike the license agreements that Novell and Red Hat offer consumers, both of which work to follow the GNU/GPL.
I am not fluent in legalese. Where can I get a copy of this EULA.

5. Linspire lacks support for current hardware such as Intel P4/Xeon w/EMT64, AMD Opteron/64-FX, current graphics cards, etc. Both Novell and Red Hat offer a wider support base for hardware than Linspire and as such better suited not only for home consumers but also enterprise.
As soon as Debian has a stable offering I am sure SUSE can package things to suit this platform.

BTW have you ever heard of product consistency, stability, reliability. Why do you think Linspire 5.0 isn't out yet?

6. Linspire lacks good distributor support. Unlike Novell and Red Hat that have support from companies IBM, HP, etc.

So? HP has only just put SUSE 9.1 on a laptop, and I believe those enhancements filtered into the 9.2 product.

Something wrong with these computers. That Northgate L-series looks a bit like an old Compaq desktop.
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_feature_preinstall.php

7. Linspire support offerings are a poor comparison to what Novell and Red Hat currently offer consumers.
Enterprise support? Or community support?

8. TCO is higher with Linspire when compared to Novell and Red Hat.
Again enterprise or consumer TCO.
I think the annual plan is good compared to the monthly.
http://www.linspire.com/trialmember_info.php
http://www.linspire.com/trialmember_renewalplan.php

9. Linspire and Debian based distributions in general lack support from the entertainment industry and their software suppliers. Where as Novell and Red Hat are the leading companies used by studios and their highend software developers.

Are you talking about movie production software? Or media the Linspire licensed movie players codecs.

Linspire is a good opensource citizen. Most arguments you have presented against can easily be rebuttled.