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Why I see so much about this out of sink season distro somuch these days ? what is ubuntu a rip off from debian ? ? Why would someone prefer Ubuntu over say Fedora/Mandrake/Suse/gentoo/Debian(I use Debain) ? ? I fail to understand so many such postings about every other distro that rolls out!!! DSL, MEPIS, UBUNTU, a b c de ....it goes on tired. Can these people put more effort in creating and managing current linux instread of forking out and wasting their time and effort. Talk realistically, do you think these ever evolving distros can achieve major market desktop share ? No not at all if they create so many distros, it is hard to patch, maintain for them. Given it is debian and you can use apt-get but why you need it ? You can just do sid install or upgrade woody to sid/sarge!!!! Dont get me wrong but I dont see any point in comparing all these distros with every new one that comes out unless it is *REALLY* something different like knoppix(when it came out it had extra ordinary support for hardware and live cd was cool!!!)