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Thank you for so eloquently describing my little text as a :
"Karl's FOSS communist manifesto"-I havent laughed that hard in a long time.


For what it is worth, just for the record, I happen to be an American.

"Your desire to use FOSS as a vehicle for your far left political agenda is pretty comical. I guess your hatred of private property and individual liberty is pretty common in germany."


I'll just point out that what I originally wrote makes exactly the point that you are trying to make here moot.

"The kind of freedom embodied in FOSS is beautiful: it relegates any statements by any members of any national identity mute: what FOSS *is* and will become is subject only to the people who will constitue that community-and most of them will not even speak english;)"


and

"At this point in time a large number of fractions wish to co-opt the identity of this community for themselves. But all the vying for identity is rather mute-the FOSS community is not *an* identity-regarless of how one talks about it. We have the pro-this and the anti-that but regardless of these identifications the copyleft nature of FOSS is a challenge to our societal definitions of property and how the relationship between private and public is understood. This challenge is not dependent upon the wish of some or many to see such as a challenge. "


"You bought his leftist gobbly-gook, hook, line, and sinker. He tried to wrap up his political agenda in some leftist pseudo-intellectualism. Did you even read that spew?"

I'm flattered.


"He slams individualism and americans at the same time.

So I just proved my point that he hates capitalism and individual liberty."

Well to be more precise the target was "american individualism"-or in particular the american mythological tale told of the reified self. I am no foe of indidivudal liberty-quite the contrary, I believe that individual liberty is achieved through mutual self-empowerment. Something which FOSS fosters in a far superior way to anything found in the propietary world.

If by capitalism you mean, which I assume, the current social-political-economic constellation prevelant in America-well I must confess -no I am not a fan or supporter of it. Hatred is something I feel in relation to actions and behaviors-not grand societal superstructures.

Overall I am glad to see you reacting to my text the way you did-you specifically did not address any of the issues that I raised and instantly resorted to lableing me and that which I wrote. I cannot overhear the resounding silence of your remarks to the issues which I discussed.


Your equivocation of:

american=libertarian=captilalism=individualism=individual liberty=private property

is precisely that which was the subject of the polemic at work in the text. The America that I know and love does not make this equivocation. They have not bought this ideological gobbly-gook, hook, line, and sinker. They are not wrapped up in the political agenda of this particular ideology.

Franky all of your comments were quite ammusing until you started with another round of equivocation:

communism=socialism=neo-socialism=national socialism

And in so doing you utterly discredit yourself.