Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 15th Jan 2005 02:09 UTC, submitted by Paul Best
Slackware, Slax On a recent IRC discussion Pat discussed Slackware's future and the restructuring that will happen for Slackware 11. Regarding the removal of Gnome from Slackware, he said: "GNOME is not easy to build into packages, lacks decent documentation to build, and requires many undocumented system changes for things to work 100%".
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RE: Arch (and Gnome in Slack)
by Michael Salivar on Sun 16th Jan 2005 05:53 UTC

I'm not trying to claim that anyone is a novice, but it should be pointed out that Arch Linux is designed to be an expert distribution. That's not to say it won't make a good base for more user friendly distros (possibly dEv and Frugalware), but in it's raw state you should count on a high level of user intervention for the first month or so, and on some level, forever.

I think most broken package claims are the result of overwritten configuration files. You need to keep an eye out for this whenever you -Syu, and when it happens, copy the original back (Pacman always backs up), and adjust accordingly with a NoUpgrade in your pacman.conf.


As for Gnome in Slackware, I commend Pat. I'm not a Gnome or KDE user since they're both heavier than I like (I prefer Enlightenment, with Fluxbox, PekWM, and XFCE4 in certain situations), but I do prefer Gnome to KDE (it's what I install for friends and family).

Honestly, Slackware is Pat Volkerding, and he has to follow his philosophies, not what the community and it's infinite fragments believe Slackware's philosophy to be. If he thinks Gnome is leading to instability and isn't worth the work, that's his choice and he must be right! Besides, if there are people who aren't happy with Dropline, it just leaves room for another Gnome packaging project, and maybe even an Ubuntu-like Slackware based distribution.

I've long believed that the future of Linux is in single CD, one of each app class distributions. Pat certainly isn't cutting Slackware to that level with this move, but I think it's a decision in that direction (if he intends it or not, he's seeding the need).