I signed up to become a Lindows Insider (now
Linspire) back in February 2004, after giving Lindows 4.5 Developer Edition a try and walking away very impressed about how far Lindows had come. I was very hesitant plugging down $99.00 for something you could do free with most other Distros which I thought was beta testing and voicing your opinion, but figured I had nothing to lose since they offered a 100% Money Back Guarantee on the program.
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Thks Mr Hartman , I have taken your advice into consideration and have rejected it , but thks for offering it.
Actually your right , my wanting to see Linspire stay alive is less constructive then say others thing I could do , but none the less I find it important to offer my diverging opinion. I do not make any stuff up. You just have to go and verify them by yourself and confirm your own opinion. My advise to you dont believe everything people say without verifying the facts.
Arpan (IP: ---.53.79.170.nettlinx.com)
Btw , Thks for your astroturfing.
"Most companies are setup with the knowledge that it will take 5 to 10 years to break even. "
Actualy 75% of the company setup dont make it up past the first year and of that remaining 25% only 5% pass the 5 years. Most company are setup with the interest to make a profit.Most fail due to bad management.
"keep in mind that Linspire received about 20 million dollars as settlement with Microsoft to change their name from Lindows to Linspire"
Keep in mind that even do Mr Robertson made millions with the sale of MP3.com he add to go and ask the community for a defence fund and that Lawyers in case like this all around the world are not cheap.
"This is more money than they have spent upto now."
The cost of development for Five-0 is 20 millions , thats just R&D for one product ...
Before the setlement Mr Robertson add already invested over 10 millions personnaly into Linspire which Linspire owed Back to him ...
And seing the Add campaign Linspire is making it must not come cheap at all ... etc ...
"This is more money than they have spent upto now."
See above ..
"This means that they 'are' profitable. "
I tought ( its more I know ) that for a company to be profitable all the debts must be repaid in full and that all expense for this year are covered in the income and that then the income still as some money left ...
"He is giving an approximate number"
Why , He is Linspire President , he should know and say the exact number or dont mention it at all. Its called accountability of the management.
" since there is no need for an exact number."
Actually there is , He should know by now that we can add up and I am sure someone is going to go and add them up and compare the numbers.
"Would you prefer 15, 345"
If its the exact number , off course ... Accurate Fact instore trust into the minds of investors.
"Anyway it's not necessary."
Its with answers like that , that they failed there 3 previous IPO.
"Linspire's comes installed on many low-cost systems"
The insider version come installed on many low-cost systems ? Really ? Can you show me a direct example , I missed that one.
"This systems are generally 50 to 100 dollars cheaper than equivalent systems that come with Windows. "
Again , I missed the insider version one so I cant comment on those , I will assume only on this that you know something I dont and that you will provide a link to those cheaper insider version you speak of , If your thinking about the regular hardware offer with 4.5 pre-installed ( I failed to see any 5-0 offer yet ) , there not cheaper , they have cheaper parts , the only ones that have better hardware then Windows for cheaper is Apple , thats because they build there own and have very good deals with the hardware maker and ship 250 000 units minimum.
"Linspire is one of the largest contributors to opensource. "
Linspire like to make themself look bigger and say that they contribute , but the reality is tottaly different. They donate little amount of money to some really huge project.
"You are just a troll."
No , but then again you dont know the meaning of troll, and I dont feel like stepping really down to your basement level and getting into personnal attack with you.
"You write a lot without having any knowledge about the company or what it does. "
Funny :
- I have there 3 former IPO submission.
- I have some copies of there deals and financials due to the relation I have.
- I have 5 years of news about them in 5 language inside a folder.
- I have 1 full Google Alert Platinum set on them.
- I Have a copy of there incorporation statement.
- I have 30 report from many group who I had to pay 1k - 3k to get a copy about what They think of Lindows/Linspire
- I have 50 + people that track them and there doing and fill my inbox with what they do.
etc ...
You got the same as above and more ? Mr Robertson and Mr Carmony dont even have what I have. In fairness They probably know something I dont , but its because I cant know everything.
I am The #1 Linspire Expert outside the company, I jus whont admit ot it.
@ Al Hartman (IP: ---.phila.k12.pa.us)
Thks Mr Hartman , I have taken your advice into consideration and have rejected it , but thks for offering it.
Actually your right , my wanting to see Linspire stay alive is less constructive then say others thing I could do , but none the less I find it important to offer my diverging opinion. I do not make any stuff up. You just have to go and verify them by yourself and confirm your own opinion. My advise to you dont believe everything people say without verifying the facts.
Arpan (IP: ---.53.79.170.nettlinx.com)
Btw , Thks for your astroturfing.
"Most companies are setup with the knowledge that it will take 5 to 10 years to break even. "
Actualy 75% of the company setup dont make it up past the first year and of that remaining 25% only 5% pass the 5 years. Most company are setup with the interest to make a profit.Most fail due to bad management.
"keep in mind that Linspire received about 20 million dollars as settlement with Microsoft to change their name from Lindows to Linspire"
Keep in mind that even do Mr Robertson made millions with the sale of MP3.com he add to go and ask the community for a defence fund and that Lawyers in case like this all around the world are not cheap.
"This is more money than they have spent upto now."
Interesting :
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_michaelsminutes_archives.php?id=162
"3 Years and $20 Million to Linspire Five-0!"
The cost of development for Five-0 is 20 millions , thats just R&D for one product ...
Before the setlement Mr Robertson add already invested over 10 millions personnaly into Linspire which Linspire owed Back to him ...
And seing the Add campaign Linspire is making it must not come cheap at all ... etc ...
"This is more money than they have spent upto now."
See above ..
"This means that they 'are' profitable. "
I tought ( its more I know ) that for a company to be profitable all the debts must be repaid in full and that all expense for this year are covered in the income and that then the income still as some money left ...
"He is giving an approximate number"
Why , He is Linspire President , he should know and say the exact number or dont mention it at all. Its called accountability of the management.
" since there is no need for an exact number."
Actually there is , He should know by now that we can add up and I am sure someone is going to go and add them up and compare the numbers.
"Would you prefer 15, 345"
If its the exact number , off course ... Accurate Fact instore trust into the minds of investors.
"Anyway it's not necessary."
Its with answers like that , that they failed there 3 previous IPO.
"Linspire's comes installed on many low-cost systems"
The insider version come installed on many low-cost systems ? Really ? Can you show me a direct example , I missed that one.
"This systems are generally 50 to 100 dollars cheaper than equivalent systems that come with Windows. "
Again , I missed the insider version one so I cant comment on those , I will assume only on this that you know something I dont and that you will provide a link to those cheaper insider version you speak of , If your thinking about the regular hardware offer with 4.5 pre-installed ( I failed to see any 5-0 offer yet ) , there not cheaper , they have cheaper parts , the only ones that have better hardware then Windows for cheaper is Apple , thats because they build there own and have very good deals with the hardware maker and ship 250 000 units minimum.
"Linspire is one of the largest contributors to opensource. "
Linspire like to make themself look bigger and say that they contribute , but the reality is tottaly different. They donate little amount of money to some really huge project.
"You are just a troll."
No , but then again you dont know the meaning of troll, and I dont feel like stepping really down to your basement level and getting into personnal attack with you.
"You write a lot without having any knowledge about the company or what it does. "
Funny :
- I have there 3 former IPO submission.
- I have some copies of there deals and financials due to the relation I have.
- I have 5 years of news about them in 5 language inside a folder.
- I have 1 full Google Alert Platinum set on them.
- I Have a copy of there incorporation statement.
- I have 30 report from many group who I had to pay 1k - 3k to get a copy about what They think of Lindows/Linspire
- I have 50 + people that track them and there doing and fill my inbox with what they do.
etc ...
You got the same as above and more ? Mr Robertson and Mr Carmony dont even have what I have. In fairness They probably know something I dont , but its because I cant know everything.
I am The #1 Linspire Expert outside the company, I jus whont admit ot it.