Linked by Christian Schaller on Tue 19th Apr 2005 18:26 UTC
Legal We today face the risk of software patents being approved in the EU because not enough parliamentary members will be showing up to vote. Due to this it is important for those of us who oppose software patents to make sure EU parliament members see the damage software patents cause, so they realize it is important to be there to vote providing the needed absolute majority. But sending out a clear message is also important for the process of patent reform in the US and other places who have fallen into the trap of introducing them.
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RE: @Miles Stevenson
by Miles Stevenson on Wed 20th Apr 2005 05:38 UTC

I will make one follow-up post to defend individual rights against collectivism, but I also don't want to disrepect the the purpose of this forum and stray too far from the subject of software patents. With that being said, if you would like to continue this discussion elsewhere, I would be more than happy to oblige. My email address is always included in my posts to this forum. Any other attacks against this post I will not respond to on this forum out of respect for keeping the topic focused. But I promise that I do read every flame I get. =)

You say that my position is simply a philisophical belief, not based on any scientific theory. But I say it is simply reason. Men rely on the power of their thinking, reasoning minds to produce and to survive. Our minds are individual entities. We are not connected like some autonomous Borg collective from Star Trek. Everything produced and achieved by mankind has been done by individual thinking minds. Yes, these minds can work cooperatively, but they are not a connected collective acting as one mind. We are not a colony of clones. We are individual minds with our own thoughts, choices, and ambitions.

When you speak of the "common good", as all socialists do, you blank out when it comes to the subject. The common good....for whom? The public interest...what public? By whose authority? I certainly don't recognize you or anyone else's authority to decide what is and is not in my best interest. When you say "the public good", when talking about abolishing software patents, do you mean that you are serving the interests of both small-time software engineers and large corporations? Are you serving the interests of theives? The only way "the common good" would ever work as a valid statement, is if everybody were the same, and the same were good for everybody. There is no "common good" because not all men are common. Some men are exceptional. Some men are evil. Some men are highly intelligent. Some are very stupid.

Observe that this notion of collectivism is probably the most fundamental difference between Capitalism (representing individual rights), and Communism (taking the rights of the individual, and turning him into a sacrificial animal to benefit the "society", which always translates to what ever group of individuals that those in power want to benefit).

You say that without the notion of "the common good", the Internet would not exist. I say you are dead wrong. I say that without the extroadinary achievements of the individual men and women who have developed technologies, written software, and corporations who have built coast to coast communications lines and satellites because they wanted to achieve, we would not have the Internet. You think AT&T and Bell Labs and IBM and all the men who worked for these great companies changed the world so you and I can chat on AOL? Do you think they put in their blood sweat and tears to build these great networks so you could say thank you? So your life is more convenient? Or do you think they did it because they love their work, they are brilliant people, and know that what they produce will build wealth for themselves?

You say civilization would not have been achieved without "the common good"? Observe which political system is responsible for building the wealthiest and greatest city in the world, New York City: Capitalism. Observe the national and horrific failure of every collectivist attempt throughout human history to build a civilization from "the common good", the most horrifying being Soviet Russia.

As far as patents being out of reach from individual coders, I emplore you to revisit reality. Not only can the personal bank accounts of individual coders not handle patent fees and legal fees, but they can't even handle the startup costs of a software company. But it's done almost every day. How? By those men who fuel our nations progress that the socialists despise: the businessman. Individuals that have a good idea, needs to patent, and is likely to succeed, attract INVESTORS to make it possible. What political system provides this? I'll give you a hint, it's slogan isn't "for the common good."