Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 14th Sep 2002 22:44 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE From SuSE Linux 8.1 on, YaST2 comes with a new, powerful package manager. It supersedes the classic YaST2 single package selection and integrates the YaST Online Update (YOU) and post-installation add-on selection at the same time. It lays the foundation for supporting multiple installation sources like a traditional set of SuSE CDs, add-on product CDs, patch CDs, FTP servers or even local directories - all of which may contain software packages to install. Specially optimized versions were implemented for both graphical user interface (the YaST2 Qt UI) or text interface (the YaST2 NCurses UI), providing each type of user with the tool that best fits his needs. Read more for the commentary.
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RE:Setup.exe
by Jerry on Sun 15th Sep 2002 13:32 UTC

YOu missed a few steps, Rob.
IF it is MS software then before #1 you should have included "Click OK on disclaimer stating you don't own this software" so what you paid is part of a TRO (Total Rental Cost) not a TCO.

Then, "Click to accept EULA that surrenders your rights to control what is on your own computer, allowing MS to add or remove any programs it wants for the 'sake' of your computer's security".

Then, "Reboot your computer to complete the installation of this program".

The information at http://www.bugtoaster.com/dw15/Reports/OperatingSystems.asp
is evidence that your computer may not reboot properly. It also lays waste to your claim of simplicity. Which version of XP were you installing the app on? There are 11 versions, or didn't you know that? Is that patch you are installing, one of thousands required to repaire security holes, the right one for your version of XP? Will it fix the security hole it claims it is fixing, or is it's real purpose to force you into to a DRM environment not of your own choosing?

Did you see a button that allowed you to accept or reject the fact that MS is storing every website you vist, every email address you have in your address book, and other personal information, in secret hidden files that get up loaded to Redmond? No, you didn't.

Did you see a button that allows you not to pay License 6 fees for the next five for essentially the same apps you've always been running? No, you didn't. But, you do.

Did MS ask if you wanted to 'upgrade' to XP or will MS just cut off support for Win9X, NTX and W2K, forcing users to XP (and later LongHorn) or leave users of those platforms twisting in the wind?


Your "CORE REASON" argument is ludicrous. There have been OVER 50 versions of the Win32 platform since Win95 first came out. Most of the software written for the original Win95 won't run on later versions. Most software that will run on the first version of SuSE or Mandrake will run on the latest version, or didn't you know that libc5 will co-exist with libc6?

Only a Microsurftie slave would complain about having free access to 'too many apps'. And those apps are installed merely by runnning MCC and clicking a few buttons. So are the security patches or the version upgrades. If you had run Mandrake you'd know that.

If you have installed Mandrake 8.2, for example, you will find out that it is as easy or easier to install than XP. But, since MS contiues their illegal monopoly, with the help of the Bush DOJ team, you don't have to go through the agonies of installing XP on your box. It comes preinstalled and you have to pay for it even if you didn't want it. Rest assured, though, XP will crud up enough to eventually force you to reinstall it, Then you can tell me how easy it is to install XP, IF the Registration Wizard doesn't decide you are a pirate and prevents you from doing so!