Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 16th Sep 2002 06:48 UTC, submitted by Cesar Cardoso
Red Hat "We see the desktop as only a piece of the entire operating system product; integration must extend beyond the desktop. We also believe that users care most about functionality and integration rather than the underlying technology. For these reasons, we have created a single desktop look and feel for Red Hat Linux rather than maintaining two unrelated configurations." Very good stuff over there from Owen Taylor, the Red Hat Desktop Team member.
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by George on Mon 16th Sep 2002 09:40 UTC

> > i am not a friend of redhat nor am i a friend of the
> > comercialism of the gnome desktop and no, i am no kde
> > user.

> It's very clear you're not a friend of Gnome, more like
> you have a visceral hate :/

oh, i am a friend of gnome... as it was before such companies are getting involved and fuck it up.

> > Funny thing, according to your numbers, there's been no
> > increase in the number of users. I'm sure there was,
> > linux-desktop bitching aside. What I mean is that you
> > just made this up from nothing ;)

you missed the point once again. for simplicity i kept the amount of overall users. i only showed that most of them switched over to kde.

> > Unlike many other companies, they help. They contribute
> > source code, testing and even money. What's so wrong
> > about that? If you read the way the Gnome foundation
> > works, you'd understand companies can't change the way
> > Gnome is developed in a drastical way. And anyway, free
> > software developers will leave if they don't like the
> > situation (something that doesn't look to be very
> > fashionable among the Gnome developers).

you are missing something here. 'helping' in terms of 'help' is ok as far it goes. but taking over the leading controlling over gnome as it is now is not correct anymore. if you follow the dicussions on gnome-mailinglists etc. you will realize that the SUN people acting like nazis there. dude. don't get fooled by that fucking 'open source' hype. companies don't contribute for free. not if they have 2000 and more employees working for them that want to feed their children, pay their bills etc. 'open source' was a god given present for these companies. dumb morons working for free on software where companies like sun directs them to the 'how our customers like to see your software' way and then the big money flows in their case. you as open source programmer only get a 'thank you' but you don't see the big '$$$$$' got it ? by the way isn't programming open source for fun ? wasn't it meant to contribute to a project like gnome for fun ? i mean you don't need a diploma for this little brainactivity to find out. there is nothing about 'open source' 'freedom' 'free' 'fun' 'happy' 'friendship' anymore on gnome. it's all about CASH...

now write it down on a piece of paper

COMPANIES MAKE MONEY WITH MY SOFTWARE THAT I WORKED FOR MONTHS ON. ALL I GET IS A WARM FART INTO MY FACE. I DRIVE A FUCKING OLD MUSTANG 79', WHILE SUN EMPLOYEES ARE DRIVING A BIG NEW MERCEDES OR BMW. I LIVE IN A 2 ROOMS APPARTMENT AND CARE WHERE TO GET THE MONEY FOR THE NEXT MONTH, WHILE SUN PEOPLE HAVE A NICE 8-10 ROOMS HOUSE. I AM STUPID BECAUSE I WORK FOR FREE.