Sun Microsystems is expected to release Solaris as open-source software Tuesday, a centerpiece of the company's plan to regain lost relevance and fend of rivals Red Hat, IBM and Microsoft.
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Can we just call these threads Solaris vs Linux: <insert
real subject here> in future.
Back to the topic...
@Anonymous (IP: ---.home.cgocable.net) The code can't be directly incorperated, but the technology can be studied and then a rewritten implimentation can be made and released under the GPL.
Not really. There are patents involved and it's very hard to
'study' something and re-implement it without infringing
copyright.
@Uno Engborg (IP: ---.sp.m.bonet.se) From what I understand Sun have created a licence that make it hard for Solaris technology to spread into other open source projects using more commonly used licenses such as the GPL.
Well. We chose the best license to provide the most value to
our customers and shareholders. Are you upset that you can't just cherry pick the code you like?
@peragrin (IP: ---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Your post is nonsense. The Solaris source code is being released under the CCDL license along with the associated patent indemnification for the inventions contained therein.
You can't revoke the CDDL license from these files, any modifications to these files must be distributed. You can
take CDDL files and mix them with your own proprietary files
if you like and there is no clause that the result must be
released wholesale under the CDDL, only those files which were already under CDDL. It is GPL that is not compatible with CDDL. If you are saying that if you take a Sun patent,
even one released under the CDDL, and implement it in your
own proprietary or GPL code then Sun can sue you then
are right. We are giving open source and open standards not
freebies for the lazy and/or unimaginative. You are basically being given a lot of $$ worth of R&D under a very
liberal license. Please see the following links for more
information (and less FUD):
If your considerations are real estate, HVAC and power
(performance/watt) then you are going to want to have a very
close look at this chip. It's so much better than Xeon
in perf/w it's actually not funny. Your UNIX market share
comments are interesting. Most figures touted are revenue
shares in which we are declining (very small though).
However, if you look at unit shipments we outship our nearest rivals (IBM) more than 2:1 and have a %44 marketshare (IDC's q105 UNIX server shipment figures). Sure
revenue is nice but volume is better long term when trying
to grow your business.
Oh, and thanks for the support from people who appreciate
what we are doing.
Can we just call these threads Solaris vs Linux: <insert
real subject here> in future.
Back to the topic...
@Anonymous (IP: ---.home.cgocable.net)
The code can't be directly incorperated, but the technology can be studied and then a rewritten implimentation can be made and released under the GPL.
Not really. There are patents involved and it's very hard to
'study' something and re-implement it without infringing
copyright.
@Uno Engborg (IP: ---.sp.m.bonet.se)
From what I understand Sun have created a licence that make it hard for Solaris technology to spread into other open source projects using more commonly used licenses such as the GPL.
Well. We chose the best license to provide the most value to
our customers and shareholders. Are you upset that you can't just cherry pick the code you like?
@peragrin (IP: ---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Your post is nonsense. The Solaris source code is being released under the CCDL license along with the associated patent indemnification for the inventions contained therein.
You can't revoke the CDDL license from these files, any modifications to these files must be distributed. You can
take CDDL files and mix them with your own proprietary files
if you like and there is no clause that the result must be
released wholesale under the CDDL, only those files which were already under CDDL. It is GPL that is not compatible with CDDL. If you are saying that if you take a Sun patent,
even one released under the CDDL, and implement it in your
own proprietary or GPL code then Sun can sue you then
are right. We are giving open source and open standards not
freebies for the lazy and/or unimaginative. You are basically being given a lot of $$ worth of R&D under a very
liberal license. Please see the following links for more
information (and less FUD):
http://www.opensolaris.org/faq/licensing_faq.html
@ Johan Krüger-Haglert (IP: ---.017-5-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
You can run the same OSS on Solaris and you can get real
Nvidia drivers as well now. Whats your point?
@ foo (IP: ---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Re: Niagara && market share.
If your considerations are real estate, HVAC and power
(performance/watt) then you are going to want to have a very
close look at this chip. It's so much better than Xeon
in perf/w it's actually not funny. Your UNIX market share
comments are interesting. Most figures touted are revenue
shares in which we are declining (very small though).
However, if you look at unit shipments we outship our nearest rivals (IBM) more than 2:1 and have a %44 marketshare (IDC's q105 UNIX server shipment figures). Sure
revenue is nice but volume is better long term when trying
to grow your business.
Oh, and thanks for the support from people who appreciate
what we are doing.