Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 18th Sep 2002 02:30 UTC
Oracle and SUN These days, the big players in the Linux "purely-desktop market" are Lycoris, Lindows, ELX and the much awaited Xandros Desktop 1.0. OSNews got their hands to the latest version of Xandros (beta3b) and we are giving it a whirl. Read more for information and screenshots.
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by rajan r on Wed 18th Sep 2002 11:04 UTC

~Seedy~: I fel that KDE gets better and better, from the 1.x I first used on Mandrake 7.2 through to 3.0 currently in just 2 years is a fantastic achievement... but it is very much following down a traditional route..

Didn't feel like nitpicking but 7.1 came with KDE 1.2.x, while 7.2 came with KDE 2.0 (and that's the reason why I skiped 7.2 and went for 8.0).

Anonymous: I think for Linux to topple windows, it must take into account the investment in training and familiarity in the current windows infrastructure. the training costs are large.

Training cost is already large without the Windows look-a-like. It would even higher with half-baked clones like Xandros, Lycoris etc. Why? Staff would treat them like Windows, and it is impossible to copy Windows' UI to the last detail except it is the same as Windows technically.

Besides, a complete change of UI with Windows 95 and NT 4 compared to Windows 3.1.1 and NT 3.5 didn't stop people from adopting the new UIs, instead of dragging their feet.

Anonymous: it would also have some irony, in that m$ copied apple, so linux is now copying m$.

Except that Microsoft only copied Apple copyrighted (and correct me if I'm wrong, patented) metaphors like the file manager and the menu bar. Windows was never and would never be a direct clone of Mac OS.

stew: Are you sure they're using Konqueror? One of the main features of Corel Linux was that they had their own file manager which was better than the KDE (those were the days...) file manager. From what I heard, Xandros was planning to use that one.

They aren't using Konqueror. They are using Xandros File Manager. Besides, Corel File Manage was based on KFM, and the only reason why the changes made by it wasn't drafted into the main KFM branch was because a) They were preparing to rewrite it, b) the amount of NDAs Corel used to protect the source code.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Alex: People are used to use Windows and only Windows GUI could make them switch to Linux with some exceptions (in regards to the GUI).

The only people I know are comfortable and used with Windows UI is power users. people that won't switch without the apps being ported, regardless of what kind of UI Linux used.

I think you are part of a small niche. People who like Windows UI, not power users, and want to switch to Linux.

Marvin: Apparently many people here never tried to understand what
it's like for a linux newbie to have installed linux only
to find out

All the examples you gace can be accomplished WITHOUT cloning Windows' UI, and all the example you gave IS ALREADY DONE by other distributions. Wow.

So I think there where all the bitching comes from. Plus, if they have a public beta (how could they get hurt by that?), I doubt there would be as much Xandros bashing as now.