Linked by Jay Sabol on Fri 4th Oct 2002 00:49 UTC
Red Hat Well, here on OSNews, there has been plenty of discussion about Red Hat 8, what it is, what it isn't, the Bluecurve look and many other features and issues. I ordered Red Hat 8 Personal Edition and decided to see how close Red Hat 8 may be to a distribution that Joe and Jane User could install and use.
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First impressions ...
by Darius on Fri 4th Oct 2002 03:40 UTC

Well, I'm up and running with Redhat 8.0 too and my first impression (after about 20-30 minutes of use) is that Mandrake 9 has this sucker beat hands down.

I would say that if we lived in a parallel universe, RH8 (and MDK9) could probably handle Joe User, but in a Windows-centric world and on a Windows-centric web, there's no way in hell, not unless you have a local Linux guru who lives nearby.
I mean, at least Mandrake 9 had Flash working out of the box .. RH8 w/Mozilla doesn't even have that! Not only that, but none of Linux's apps for viewing video files (wma, real media, quicktime, etc) are configured here. At least one place told me I needed quicktime and sent me to the quicktime site, but Linux was not a choice amoung operating systems. The best I could do is to download Quicktime Installer.exe ... I could see Joe User sitting there trying to figure out why it won't run on his Red Hat machine.

Fonts are not quite as bad as they used to be, but still need work.

As for hardware support, I tried to simulate adding in a new piece of hardware by hooking up my USB scanner (HP Scanjet 3400c) with the system on. In Win2k, it detects the scanner, asks for the CD, and you're off. What happened in Linux when I plugged it in? NOTHING!!!

There's also apparently nothing that plays DVDs here. At least Win2k/XP has the common courtesy to tell me that it doesn't have a codec to play the DVD with, but Redhat just sits there with a thumb up its ass ... doesn't even show me a CD icon, apparently has no idea what the movie disc is.

It took the word processor in openoffice.org nearly 20 seconds to load up (Athlon 1.2ghz w/384MB RAM) and all attempts to open even a simple MS Word document failed miserably.

Overall, they made it look flashier, but it just seems like the same old, same old. I really don't see how any long-time Windows users can find refuge here, unless their just hellbent on using something not made by MS. I'm 98% sure I could get all of these problems (and the ones not mentioned here) ironed out, but why would I want to? Everything already works with what I have. I decided to at least bend to the request of Linux fanatics and try out 'alternatives', but if you want to target me with something, you're most certainly going to have to do better than this.

Perhaps with another 2-3 years of work, this thing might be ready for prime time. But as of now, it's still just a pipe dream.

Oh, and to Kyle:
" This is just the problem. Linux = Bloat. I do a minimal install, wanting a nice desktop OS to use email, web and to do word processing on, and I get Apache, a million and one text editors (vi, vim, emacs, pico....) and ten thousand other applications that Joe user will never need. "

You really should try out the default 'Personal' install of RH8, as it seems to be about what you're looking for. There's no apache here and the only 'Linux-ish' thing I see here is Emacs ;)