Linked by Jay Sabol on Fri 4th Oct 2002 00:49 UTC
Red Hat Well, here on OSNews, there has been plenty of discussion about Red Hat 8, what it is, what it isn't, the Bluecurve look and many other features and issues. I ordered Red Hat 8 Personal Edition and decided to see how close Red Hat 8 may be to a distribution that Joe and Jane User could install and use.
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Liked at first but now I dont
by William Ray Barker on Fri 4th Oct 2002 17:13 UTC

When I first installed it, my first thoughts were this is the best install I have ever used in my life. I did a custom install and was able to install what i want and have a good understanding of what should be on my system. Doing this with Mandrake I get down to not knowing what things need to be installed but it was very easy for RedHat. Once I booted up, well the firstboot service, never worked for me but that didn't bother me. Oh I also loved out it installs pretty much nothing. Next the up2date icon thing never seemed to work right, but oh well, I can start it from the menu. The menu seemed a little hard to get used to but it was ok. Then I started having issues.

First thing I did was change the looks of my RedHat to look like Mac at the top and a small sliding bar at the bottom, my usual setup to look more like OS X. Well the bottom I couldn't setup as being able to maximize over it, actually I didn't see a whole lot of options in the new Gnome. Next I couldn't figure out how to make windows remember there position. Next is there is no gmenu type of program to add things to the start menu, my xmms never even would start up, I uninstalled it, and installed one from xmms web site, and yes I installed the mp3 encoder file too, but nothing. Next if you install an RPM where the hell is there a tool to uninstall it? No GnoRPM or whatever it was called which I didn't like that program in the first place, but still. That has actually been my biggest complain so far is I love the Add and Remove Package tool, but I wish there was a way to add other packages to it even a way to add them to the menu. What would be great is called Start Here, Linux HD or something and have it setup so that if you right click the program and go to uninstall, it uninstalls the package. That way they can start hiding the linux file system. I used to complain about Linux should change their directory structure, then I noticed on my Mac that OS X just hides theirs. Yea things are still bloated still... some what that is included in the base. I really don't see from what I installed why they should be more then 200 to 300 meg, I don't do anything big, and the biggest program I saw I installed was Mozilla since I didn't install OpenOffice, but the install was almost 1 gig.

Next I have no clue how to use IP Tables to setup my IP Masq, in RedHat 7.3 I just used the firewall configuration program, then edited one file and change a zero to one and that was it. Which it took me forever to know that I was using IP Chains, so now I'm lost.

So I'll end with what I told my Linux friend last night that won't use anything but Debian.... The new RedHat is great it's way more advance feel to it then any other I have used, it would be great for a laptop or a desktop... But I really don't see any use for it as a main computer system, or server with out getting overly pissed. Right now I'm looking for something else to put on, I think I may go to FreeBSD, which the only thing I disliked about that was uninstalling things, if there was a dependence you can't uninstall it... even if you want to uninstall all parts including teh dependence. So I don't know... I might just have to live with Mandrake. Which I liked Mandrake, but I always felt it was kind of 'flacky', I always felt it was beta ware, where I always felt with RedHat including 7.3 that it was a professional business application.