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Brad: "With a new CPU and some changes that probly will happen in time they might be there for me. But then it will come down to still having a big reason for switching, and there simple isn't any currently."

There's quite a few reasons to switch right now, the iApps, and more apps now getting fleshed out with beefed up mail, Sherlock, chat, address book, iCal. Also, the iPod with ITunes is unbelievable. Of course, switching does not make sense for everyone. Apple is not the right computer for everyone (the best is multiple computers, mac, os and windows for that matter).

Apple is just warming up. They are going to make us an awesome, integrated tool. Hardware, nice OS, all the basic apps you need (which work similarly and work together), and integrated online service. No more "construction kit" PC. The focus is COMPLETELY different than MS. They are making tools for developers. Not a tool for consumers. MS is expecting all these other people to make the stuff for consumers. I don't think it's going to work. We'll see though, this is uncharted territory.

Brad; " Also there is no way I would buy one while the images of the switch commerials are in my head, they make me want to see apple colapse in there arrogant idiotic distortion field. "

Here lies the real problem most people have with Apple. The elitism factor. Well, apple has a problem. They cost more (necessarily - they have to cost more than Dell, goddamn it!!). There are compatibility issues, software availability issues. The only reason for Apple to exist is if they make a better computer (not better for everyone, but for a significant portion of consumers).

So Apple and Apple users have to say the mac is better. It IS better (for most ordinary non-computer expert people). We have to say it. Sorry. I would llke to find a way to say this without putting people down and driving people crazy. I'm open to ideas.