Linked by Jim Vanaria on Fri 4th Oct 2002 21:25 UTC
When it comes to using computers, it used to be (and still rings true today) that most people find the Mac platform to be either loathsome or lovable with few spectators taking middle ground on the issue.
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Ed page: Current DRM stance (not bothering with suppor for it)
It would be nice if MS took the same stance, but trust me, if you are a Mac user and holding off using a PC because of DRM - YOU ARE STUPID. :-) DRM only works when you watching/downloading/whatever DRM media. That's means if you are downloading a ACC or a MP3 or a Ogg, DRM WON'T work. If you are downloading a WMA from a record company, DRM *might* work, only if the record company wants it to work.
Though it is quite sad an industry is being bullied by a much smaller industry, just because the smaller industry wants to keep its 1/2 decade old business model.
Ed page: I do know one thing, I never want to have to use a version of windows with Palladium
Nice stance, even though there is NO official proof behind the claims made about Palladium. From what I understand from it is that is it virtually impossible to crack copyright protection in music, video and software. Plus, for shareware, since you can't turn back the computer clock, you only get to try their software for 15/30/60 days, not 3 years :-P
Ophidian: im actually interested in a mac running osx, no way in hades i would own any mac running os 9 and below (modern operating system my arse)
Funny, the ancient OS has a much better UI than the modern one. (Completely off topic, but I rather choose Mac OS 9 or spend days trying to fix up Aqua to make it *usable* :-)
Chris: Troll somewhere else. The Mac gets the best games from the PC world, then some: Quake, Unreal, The Sims.
For many gamers, which BTW make out one of the major buying groups in the PC market (they manage to push AMD market share to 20%, without them getting good first-tier OEM support), the game numbers are small in comparison with PC's (just have the most famous games - so what? so does Linux :-).
Plus, for many of them (my brothers included), they loath the hardware (and they we aren't talking about the price yet!)
Darren: Overall, I think their bottom line would improve.
Besides loosing MS's support, their bottom line would shrink. Tell me *one* OEM with a marketshare similar in size with Apple broke even.
The margins are low in the PC market. welcome to the commodity market. They are better off being softare-only or stick with their business model.
Jesse: If you are looking at prices, go to www.baucomcomputers.com or www.macofalltrades.com and pick up a G4 tower for 700-800 bucks. You can't beat it.
The only machines I found that is within the price range as you said are machines that is 2-3 years old. Wow, if I buy a PC that old, it would be MUCH cheaper. So I'll say, you can beat it.
Besides, considering from you comment, you left the PC world *years* ago. PCs back then was crap compared to Macs. They were much slower, hardly usable etc. It is *way* different now. So I wonder, you sell PowerBooks as a living? So you just use PowerBooks as a business machine.
appleforever: There's quite a few reasons to switch right now, the iApps, and more apps now getting fleshed out with beefed up mail, Sherlock, chat, address book, iCal. Also, the iPod with ITunes is unbelievable.
Wow! I'm gonna buy a Mac now! (Come on, if this was the case, Sony would have owned the market before the iMac came out).
appleforever: MS is expecting all these other people to make the stuff for consumers. I don't think it's going to work.
Being the sole provider of consumer software is stupid. Why? iMovie might work for you, but it may not work for the guy down the street. Microsoft knows that, and in its history, it killed little ISVs.
But why exactly is this bad? You never actually explain to anyone here.
Ed page: Current DRM stance (not bothering with suppor for it)
It would be nice if MS took the same stance, but trust me, if you are a Mac user and holding off using a PC because of DRM - YOU ARE STUPID. :-) DRM only works when you watching/downloading/whatever DRM media. That's means if you are downloading a ACC or a MP3 or a Ogg, DRM WON'T work. If you are downloading a WMA from a record company, DRM *might* work, only if the record company wants it to work.
Though it is quite sad an industry is being bullied by a much smaller industry, just because the smaller industry wants to keep its 1/2 decade old business model.
Ed page: I do know one thing, I never want to have to use a version of windows with Palladium
Nice stance, even though there is NO official proof behind the claims made about Palladium. From what I understand from it is that is it virtually impossible to crack copyright protection in music, video and software. Plus, for shareware, since you can't turn back the computer clock, you only get to try their software for 15/30/60 days, not 3 years :-P
Ophidian: im actually interested in a mac running osx, no way in hades i would own any mac running os 9 and below (modern operating system my arse)
Funny, the ancient OS has a much better UI than the modern one. (Completely off topic, but I rather choose Mac OS 9 or spend days trying to fix up Aqua to make it *usable* :-)
Chris: Troll somewhere else. The Mac gets the best games from the PC world, then some: Quake, Unreal, The Sims.
For many gamers, which BTW make out one of the major buying groups in the PC market (they manage to push AMD market share to 20%, without them getting good first-tier OEM support), the game numbers are small in comparison with PC's (just have the most famous games - so what? so does Linux :-).
Plus, for many of them (my brothers included), they loath the hardware (and they we aren't talking about the price yet!)
Darren: Overall, I think their bottom line would improve.
Besides loosing MS's support, their bottom line would shrink. Tell me *one* OEM with a marketshare similar in size with Apple broke even.
The margins are low in the PC market. welcome to the commodity market. They are better off being softare-only or stick with their business model.
Jesse: If you are looking at prices, go to www.baucomcomputers.com or www.macofalltrades.com and pick up a G4 tower for 700-800 bucks. You can't beat it.
The only machines I found that is within the price range as you said are machines that is 2-3 years old. Wow, if I buy a PC that old, it would be MUCH cheaper. So I'll say, you can beat it.
Besides, considering from you comment, you left the PC world *years* ago. PCs back then was crap compared to Macs. They were much slower, hardly usable etc. It is *way* different now. So I wonder, you sell PowerBooks as a living? So you just use PowerBooks as a business machine.
appleforever: There's quite a few reasons to switch right now, the iApps, and more apps now getting fleshed out with beefed up mail, Sherlock, chat, address book, iCal. Also, the iPod with ITunes is unbelievable.
Wow! I'm gonna buy a Mac now! (Come on, if this was the case, Sony would have owned the market before the iMac came out).
appleforever: MS is expecting all these other people to make the stuff for consumers. I don't think it's going to work.
Being the sole provider of consumer software is stupid. Why? iMovie might work for you, but it may not work for the guy down the street. Microsoft knows that, and in its history, it killed little ISVs.
But why exactly is this bad? You never actually explain to anyone here.
appleforever: I'm open to ideas.
And I'm open to antitrust laws.