Linked by Jim Vanaria on Fri 4th Oct 2002 21:25 UTC
When it comes to using computers, it used to be (and still rings true today) that most people find the Mac platform to be either loathsome or lovable with few spectators taking middle ground on the issue.
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appleforever: People are switching because of the iApps.
Yet even with this group of people, Apple's market share and market influence is shrinking. Fast. Which only goes to prove one thing: MOST PC USERS DON'T CARE!
appleforever: If you would like to identify specific PC apps that match ITunes, iDVD, iPhoto and iMovie, I will look at those.
For iTunes, I would say WMP9. For iDVD, I would say MyDVD. For iPhoto, I can't find any altenatives just as good (I mentioned this again and again), but MGI Photosuite is really good. iMovie - there's a thousand, I dunno where to begin (I'll begin once I use any of them, something I can't without a camera)
appleforever: iCal has a number of unique features, including the ability to show multiple calendars [...]
I was able to do this for a year already (I have three calendars, school, computer time, and yearly calendars - birthdays, dates to remember, etc.)
appleforever: The address book is system wide, so all apps can draw from it even when it's not open.
Windows had an systemwide address book for a long time, only they don't really show it in order to sell apps. Click Start > Program Files > Accessories > Address Book (it is part of the IE/OE bundle, BTW).
appleforever: I have read of some minor glitches (as always with windows) on the PC iPod.
.....from? (I don't know anyone that has a iPod for PC, BTW). The only reason why iPod is better on the Mac than on the PC is that when you plug in your iPod in the FireWire port, iTunes load syncs with it automatically. That's the big difference.
appleforever: iBrowser almost certainly is coming. iOffice probably, but Apple may wait a bit in order not to piss off MS too much.
The legendary iBrowser and iOffice. Heck, the iWalk sounded more logical than this. Apple had always been rumoured to release an browser of their own after killing Cyber Dog. (Plus, iBrowse is a trademark by a Amigan browser, iBrowser could cause trademark issues because it is one alphabeth different).
iOffice sounds even more absord. Absolutely no facts behind such a claim. heck, Apple doesn't even understand the corporate market to at least compete with the Office in the market (heck, you don't understand that market).
appleforever: There's no tech support for my TV and toaster, why should there be for my computer?
You get tech support for your car - is it horridly hard to use? Toaster is a way different beast from computers. It is a simple machine, can be made from scratch even the components. No need for tech support.
TVs on the other hand DO give tech support. Maybe you never used it, in the same vain, I never used PC tech support, but have used TV tech support.
appleforever: I don't think that's fair. I often provide a lot of detail and explanation. NOBODY does it all the time.
What you said is that people buying a PC from a cheap shop with Windows don't get iApps. Big deal. People buying from shops like that obviously aren't interested in iApps.
Plus, thanks to the antitrust laws you so eagerly support, Microsoft can't bundle stuff into their OS like Apple. Even if they made it uninstallable.
Dirk: I can build a PC for less than 1/2 the price of an eMac with far better performance.
I never agree with this analogy because no other major OEM can compete on price with buidling your own machine.
appleforever: People are switching because of the iApps.
Yet even with this group of people, Apple's market share and market influence is shrinking. Fast. Which only goes to prove one thing: MOST PC USERS DON'T CARE!
appleforever: If you would like to identify specific PC apps that match ITunes, iDVD, iPhoto and iMovie, I will look at those.
For iTunes, I would say WMP9. For iDVD, I would say MyDVD. For iPhoto, I can't find any altenatives just as good (I mentioned this again and again), but MGI Photosuite is really good. iMovie - there's a thousand, I dunno where to begin (I'll begin once I use any of them, something I can't without a camera)
appleforever: iCal has a number of unique features, including the ability to show multiple calendars [...]
I was able to do this for a year already (I have three calendars, school, computer time, and yearly calendars - birthdays, dates to remember, etc.)
appleforever: The address book is system wide, so all apps can draw from it even when it's not open.
Windows had an systemwide address book for a long time, only they don't really show it in order to sell apps. Click Start > Program Files > Accessories > Address Book (it is part of the IE/OE bundle, BTW).
appleforever: I have read of some minor glitches (as always with windows) on the PC iPod.
.....from? (I don't know anyone that has a iPod for PC, BTW). The only reason why iPod is better on the Mac than on the PC is that when you plug in your iPod in the FireWire port, iTunes load syncs with it automatically. That's the big difference.
appleforever: iBrowser almost certainly is coming. iOffice probably, but Apple may wait a bit in order not to piss off MS too much.
The legendary iBrowser and iOffice. Heck, the iWalk sounded more logical than this. Apple had always been rumoured to release an browser of their own after killing Cyber Dog. (Plus, iBrowse is a trademark by a Amigan browser, iBrowser could cause trademark issues because it is one alphabeth different).
iOffice sounds even more absord. Absolutely no facts behind such a claim. heck, Apple doesn't even understand the corporate market to at least compete with the Office in the market (heck, you don't understand that market).
appleforever: There's no tech support for my TV and toaster, why should there be for my computer?
You get tech support for your car - is it horridly hard to use? Toaster is a way different beast from computers. It is a simple machine, can be made from scratch even the components. No need for tech support.
TVs on the other hand DO give tech support. Maybe you never used it, in the same vain, I never used PC tech support, but have used TV tech support.
appleforever: I don't think that's fair. I often provide a lot of detail and explanation. NOBODY does it all the time.
What you said is that people buying a PC from a cheap shop with Windows don't get iApps. Big deal. People buying from shops like that obviously aren't interested in iApps.
Plus, thanks to the antitrust laws you so eagerly support, Microsoft can't bundle stuff into their OS like Apple. Even if they made it uninstallable.
Dirk: I can build a PC for less than 1/2 the price of an eMac with far better performance.
I never agree with this analogy because no other major OEM can compete on price with buidling your own machine.