Linked by Jim Vanaria on Fri 4th Oct 2002 21:25 UTC
Apple When it comes to using computers, it used to be (and still rings true today) that most people find the Mac platform to be either loathsome or lovable with few spectators taking middle ground on the issue.
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by rajan r on Sun 6th Oct 2002 11:38 UTC

appleforever: See http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227896-1204-20151654.html?tag=prmo6 on the Pinnancle Studio.

Never liked Pinnancle Studio: horridly hard to use, horridly slow and horridly expensive. Heck, it makes Macs look affordable.

appleforever: Here's one quote on MGI Videowave: ""Virtually Worthless"

I personally never tried this piece of software. I only mentioned MGI Photosuite which major OEMs bundle for machines targeting digital photography.

appleforever: Here's Cnet on MyDVD 4: "Unfortunately, the program's limited tools and expensive tech support hamper its potential"

Can I have a link to that review?
Besides, I don't see how MyDVD's feature set is limiting compared to iDVD. Maybe with stuff like Pinnacle, but for consumers, it is good enough. Plus, I remember watching a good review of it on Call For Help.

appleforever: Here's a recent article from JULIO OJEDA-ZAPATA of the Pioneer Press, comparing Sony's new consumer DVD program to iDVD:

I have tried Sony's DVD software: it is laughable. Again, I never mentioned this piece of software.

appleforever: iTunes has been credited by many as the most intuitive.

Only by the Mac press, or from Mac users. I personally found iTunes 3's UI quite confusing.

Quite suprising compared to other iApps.

appleforever: iPod for windows is great too, but Musicmatch is not as well integrated and it's less intuitive.

Wow, so since Musicmatch doesn't sync with your iPod as soon as you plug in your iPod would cause you to buy a Mac, LOL. (Besides, "big suprise" Apple's products work well with Apple products).

I'm personally considering buying a iPod for PC.

Now, as for MGI PhotoSuite, I once used it. Now, for me, I consider iPhoto the best (the only iApp besides iMovie I'm willing to say that). But even with my lack of knowlegde about photography and especially about digital photography, I found MGI Photosuite easy to learn.

Now, if PixiePlus gets support for digital cameras, you can kiss your iPhoto superiority good bye.

gabe: Looks like the basics are there, and lot of really spiffy looking templates built in. I suppose this could be considered iOffice. It supports the microsoft document formats, although I can't attest to how well.

AppleWorks and Office are two different markets. appleforever claims that iOffice might be released by Apple and could compete with MS Office. As for the support for MS' docs, it is one of the worst I have seen (<sacarsm>heck, perhaps KOffice have better support).

gabe: I didn't buy it for a game machine, I bought it for an easy to use unix box.

Like every other Mac user. PC gaming make up a significant market in the PC world, and trust me, Apple's not even close in getting some hardcore gamers to switch.

Comparing a PS/2 or a Gamecube to a PC is laughable... :-) Two different markets. PC gamers won't play a console game if a PC version is available; clearly, the quality is better.

Ed page: First, did I say I was a Mac user? No. Second did I say that this list showed in favor of getting a Mac?

I never implied you to be a Mac user, nor favour Macs. What I meant was that if people move to Macs because of DRM, they are ignorant and stupid.

It was obviously NOT MEANT AT YOU. I know mightly well that you are a PC user.

Ed page: Im so stupid? Of course I see alternatives like Ogg. Im not sitting here saying "My own little world is perfect"

Never said you are stupid. Now, if you buy a Mac and use it because of DRM, then you are stupid. DRM won't prevent you from using Ogg (it didn't for me). It has restrictions on DRM media. Maybe future CDs would have copyright protection, but thank god I live in a country where fair use is supported.

But I do consider your move against Palladium to be stupid because you and me know little about it to begin.

Ed page: I dont really see it as bullying because they think there is money to be made in all of it too. Im sorry, your harware isnt DRM enabled so it wont work on your computer

Trust me, Microsoft makes its money from the software. It makes no EXTRA money from you just because you buy a new machine to run the latest version of Windows. Heck, they probably make much less money from OEM license then from retail licenses.

Ed page: From whats been released about Palladium, people have said what can be done with it. I hope Microsoft doesnt take it that far but it is a possibility and I dont put anything past them.

From what that have been released about Palladium, it is a TCPA complient hardware-software mix than makes DRM currently in MS' OS unbreakable. For the stuff paranoid geeks (especially Linux geeks) are saying: they have NO proof.

Personally, I would have to wait and see what Palladium is. I would make rash decission, I have made a few before I have since regreted it.

If Palladium does prevent me from playing Ogg files or prevent me from using Linux - mark my words, I would be the first person to order a Mac or AmigaOne.