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gabe: Ok, now you're just rambling...

No, you are rambling. I figured to were replying to me and again asume you got my point wrongly, so I restated my point. Nothing less, nothing more.

gabe: I would disagree with you there, certain types of games play better on consoles than PC's and vice versa, but I think lumping them all together as game playing devices is perfectly valid.

If games were made to take advantage of *current* mainstream hardware on the PC, you can be sure that the games would have a better gameplay and graphics quality than in the console version.

One thing I notice that console have an upperhand to PCs for gaming is playing the game itself because you don't use your mouse and/or keyboard but rather a device specifically made for games.

gabe: Funny, I work in an office full of gamers, they all play console and PC games.

Funny, I'm a teenager (the bulk of gamers are youth), and all the extreeme gamers I have known rather play the PC than any console, even though all of them have a console at home, be it Nintendo or a PS/PS2 (no, I have yet to met one person in Malaysia to own a XBOX).

gabe: I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make or prove.

The point I'm trying to prove (the point before you came into the thread) is that PCs have its target markets that wouldn't consider the Mac AT ALL, especially gamers.

appleforever: I'm not gonna quote you on MyDVD, but notice here http://www.cnet.com/software/search/0,11066,0-3227896-1202-0,00.htm...
for consumer DVD editing;
1) Dazzle DVD Complete (9/10)
2) MedioStream NeoDVD Standard 4.0 (8/10)
3) DVD MovieFactory (7/10)
InterVideo WinProducer 3.0 DVD (7/10)
Sonic MyDVD Plus 4.0 (7/10)
Apple iDVD (7/10)

So, accroading to CNET, they rated two PC titles better than iDVD, and two more as good as iDVD. Plus, for MyDVD, CNET rated it as good as iDVD. Here's some quotes for you

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227896-1204-8723738.html?tag=pdtl-l...
"The bad: Doesn't transfer or edit footage; doesn't create submenus for links to particular scenes; works only on Apple computers equipped with SuperDrives; requires OS X 10.1."

appleforever: I cited this article because it states that iDVD remains the gold standard for consumer DVD authoring software (i.e., is superior to the PC equivalents)

Than you are looking at the wrong source. CNET says Dazzle DVD Complete is the best of the lot. And PC-only too.

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227896-1204-20206222.html?tag=pdtl-... - "Dazzle DVD Complete offers more sophisticated DVD-authoring features than any other PC-based, sub-$100 DVD program. It's ideal for beginners and intermediate moviemakers who work on a Windows machine and don't need video-editing tools."

And for Musicmatch, never did like the player (I currently like RealONE the best). Why doesn't Apple want to work with WMP, argubly the best thing against iTunes now and in the future is quite obvious. But would I buy a Mac just to use iTunes with iPod? Never. You and instead just manage your playlists in other players, and import them in Musicmatch and sync it.

Sergio: Cnet is totally biased against Microsoft, and they are actively trying to persuade people not to use Microsoft products.

Actually, Sergio, I would say otherwise. CNet is quite unbiased. It is certain authors that are biased, but overall not biased at all. if they are biased, they wouldn't give iDVD 7/10. To prove that is David Coursey - for YEARS he was an anti-Linux anti-Mac pro-MS columnist (of course now he isn't, but still pro-MS)