Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Mon 7th Oct 2002 07:27 UTC
If there are two things in this apartment that I don't like, that would first be the dog upstairs which barks at 5 AM almost every morning, and the fact that UPS almost never deliver things on our door. They never bother to check if we are in. The SuSE people were very kind to send us the Professional version of SuSE 8.1, but unfortunately, I received it 10 days later after it arrived in the apartment's complex. But now we got it here, we gave it a spin for almost a week, and here is what we think about it.
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>> "Also, you wined about how the Package manager was not up to your liking...."
First of all, she wasn't whining. She was doing her job as a reviewer: describing the product from her point of view. That's not whining, it's the nature of the task. If she was just going to say, "It was good and I liked it," then why bother doing a review anyway? The kind of "review" you obviously want is not a review, it's an endorsement at best, a blatant advertisement at worst. That's not her job. SuSE's marketing department should be taking care of that.
>>"....are YOU going to spend 100% of your time in the package manager? NO! you are gonna be doing real life things, AKA playing games, email, blah blah!"
So because you don't use the package manager 100% of the time it can be poorly constructed? That's just silly. Just because you don't spend 100% of your time walking on your bathroom floor you don't want it covered in crushed glass. If you spend 1% of your time using a bad package manager, you might need only 0.33% of that time in a GOOD package manager. That's extra time to be doing your "blah blah" stuff. Your argument is just silly. No one uses ANYthing 100% of the time, so let's just let everything be crap, right?
>>"When linux does something we dont agree with,
we say SHAME SHAME! But when windows does something
wrong, we just shrug our shoulders and agree with it.
Now I am talking about little things, like font rendering,
and not your system crashing. If windows didnt render your
fonts correctly youd go and fix it...but alas! if linux does the same thing, you curse linux and declare the OS rubbish!"
She didn't say SuSE 8.1 OR Linux is "rubbish" ... she said she LIKED SuSE 8.1, but that it has some flaws. She is NOT A DEVELOPER, she's a reviewer. As such, she IS doing her part to fix the problem by bringing the problem to the attention of people who CAN fix it. See, software development is like writing -- you often miss errors because you know what you really mean. A user interface might make perfect sense to you as a developer but confuse pretty much everyone else. She is letting the developers know they have a potential problem. She's doing her part. Now, it's up to the developers to do their part: listen to her suggestions/complaints, and decide how they want to act to rectify the problem ... or not, as they see fit.
>>"You wine about the OS isnt for newbies, but there is one thing Suse is good at...and that packing their products with plenty of documentation...aka the HUGE MANUALS THAT ACCOMPANY THE PRODUCT! Take a gander at those before you install."
You wasted a lot of space to say what amounts to: "RTFM!" Sure, read the manual. But if users have to RTFM to do trivial things that SHOULD BE OBVIOUS AND EASY, something is very wrong. Users accustomed to Windows aren't going to want to spend their valuable time reading a manual to figure out how to change their screen resolution or format a floppy disk. Those things and many more should be easy and obvious. Despite your present arrogance, you were a newbie once. Did you want people shouting at you to RTFM manual when you were already frustrated because you couldn't figure something out or had just screwed something up? I think not. Just because you know NOW, don't forget that that wasn't always the case.
Your post was rude and uncalled for. In regards to decorum and the common tenets of polite, civilized discussion I humbly suggest you RTFM. You obviously missed a few chapters.