Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 20th Oct 2002 17:14 UTC
Debian and its clones "This is a critical review of Debian 3.0, but I want to say right from the start that I'm not trying to bait anyone. However I feel that reviewers often root for Debian as the open-source underdog, and give it marks which it doesn't deserve. If RedHat 8.0 came out with installation software like Debian 3.0 it would be savaged. I think it's time for an honest review, to spur the Debian developers into making the best possible distribution. I really want Debian to succeed. I want to use it daily, and recommend it to my friends. But I can't do that right now and I think it's important people understand why." Read the review and its (already long) discussion at DebianPlanet.
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by ealm on Sun 20th Oct 2002 23:53 UTC

Even if Debian is about being a technical distro (whatever that means), and not an end-user one, it will still need to advance itself on several key points, to help its distributors catch up with other distros or OSes, easily.

What do you mean by "catch up"?

My question to you is this: what *new advancements* made to Debian the last 2-3 years that makes it able to compete or even blow-out other OS/distos? Are there any? If yes, which one?
This is an honest question, I am no Debian user, so I truly have this question.

It isn't supposed to "compete with" or "blow-out" other OSes. Debian is just a base and set of tools to build your dist with.

Then, I asked the question: "what are the new advancements Debian has received the last 2-3 years, in ANY department, that makes it still a good option for its distributors to choose Debian instead of another distro".
So, what are these *new* advancements, that will make ME to decide to use Debian as my "Eugenia Linux" distribution? (hypothetically speaking ;)

Debian isn't the best choice just because of any advancements made to Debian itself in the last 2-3 years. Debian is (now and then) the best choice if you want a clean dist to base your environment on. The strongest part may not be in specific "Debian core technologies", it's in the package manager and the packages. Having a huge pool of *good* and *stable* and *working* packages may be the strongest part of Debian - no others can compete here.

So, do they have special changes to the Linux kernel to make coffee, do they support... beowulf out of the box?

No, you're supposed to want to build your own kernel if you run Debian, if you can't - sorry but then you can't make full advantage of Debian. The same goes with beowolf...

What are THEIR advancements in the last 2-3 years? Are they just patching up what they already got with newer versions and filling security holes? Is this the whole innovation Debian has to offer for its *new* versions? ... So, anyone else know the answer to the question I asked in the first page of this comment's section?

The advancements are in the software itself, Debians job here is mainly to package these applications and maintain a nice environment for managing, organizing and settings up this software.

For example, are there specific Debian kernel patches that do more than Mandrake and Red Hat etc? Is there automatic support and configuration tools (text mode is fine) for clusters and security not found elsewhere (debian-specific)? Is there support for a filesystem that will make use of attributes by default? Is there special patches for XFree to allow it to do things that can't be done on another distro?

No matter what distro, this kind of enchancements should go into respective project - not into a ceratin distro. (The OSS spirit you know ;)