Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 20th Oct 2002 17:14 UTC
Debian and its clones "This is a critical review of Debian 3.0, but I want to say right from the start that I'm not trying to bait anyone. However I feel that reviewers often root for Debian as the open-source underdog, and give it marks which it doesn't deserve. If RedHat 8.0 came out with installation software like Debian 3.0 it would be savaged. I think it's time for an honest review, to spur the Debian developers into making the best possible distribution. I really want Debian to succeed. I want to use it daily, and recommend it to my friends. But I can't do that right now and I think it's important people understand why." Read the review and its (already long) discussion at DebianPlanet.
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Interesting posts & info
by Jay on Mon 21st Oct 2002 06:21 UTC

I was one of the ones who posted at the beginning of this thread asking for more information about Debian. I've really learned a lot about it from people's postings.

I've noticed that there has developed a certain defensiveness in talking about Linux - I mean among the various stripes of Linux users. I don't mean in this thread particularly, but in general.

Many seem to interpret questions or comments as attacks on their favorite distro and react defensively. In one way, it shows the incredible depth and breadth that Linux has achieved - to have distributions ranging from Debian and Vector Linux to Lycoris and Lindows. It has been and is amazing to see all this happen over the past few years. And, of course, it all has to do with OSS and the GPL.

I do have a suggestion for everyone - myself included. We must not react to remarks with defensiveness or anger, presuming that a person is trolling (although, of course, a person may, in fact, be trolling:-). Those of us who are interested in OSS and Linux should really stick together, at least in the sense that constructive criticism or questions are nor seen as attacks or that we presume certain things.

For example, I would never presume that Debian or Slackware or Gentoo should become Joe User distros, become Lycoris or Lindows. LOL, it seems like some feel there is a silent conspiricy to try and dumb down the geekier Linux distros, but there really isn't at all. Here at OS News, some may get that impression because, especially as a UI person, Eugenia always talks about OSes as the end user would see them and I too tend to see things in that light. But, of course, it depends on who the end users are, what their level of skill and knowledge are and what the product is intended for, who it is intended for. So, I think if we keep those things in mind, it is easier to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

At any rate, there have been some great posts here and I leanred a lot, as I said. But, if Eugenia hadn't asked that question about Debian, this thread may have ended up being one of those ones with only a few comments. Thanks for all the great info!