Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 19th Nov 2002 09:24 UTC
Oracle and SUN This past year has been a breakthrough for Sun for both their Linux and Solaris products. The most intriguing news of all is possibly the challenge Sun poses to Microsoft with their Desktop Initiative announced a couple of months ago. We spoke to Bill Moffitt, Product Line Manager of the Solaris Lifecycle, about Linux, the desktop and Solaris. Update: Bill Moffitt replies on our forums.
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by Bill Moffitt on Thu 21st Nov 2002 01:59 UTC

I just saw Red Pill's last comment and had to add a few notes here.

1. Yep, Java's not part of a standards organization. Most of the Java community is happy with it this way. When it's a good idea to do so, we'll drive it as an official standard. If you're really interested in the whys and wherefors around this and have a particular point of view you want to get across, I suggest you take part in the JCP.

2. Sun and Solaris are proprietary, but IBM is open. That's why all the APIs to z/OS (a.k.a. MVS) and OS/400 are freely available and anyone can write tools and applications for them, right? And IBM is open because they ported Linux to the mainframe, which is the best possible thing for the Linux community, right? Hmmmmmmm... I'd love to hear what other Linux-philes think about that...

3. Sun only supports open standards it can control, like GNOME. Yeah. It's our total control over the GNOME community that has enabled us to get GNOME 2.0 out on Solaris so early (currently scheduled for mid-next year). Yep, obviously and undeniably true, you have caught us again. ;-)

"Which CUSTOMERS asked for "N1" ?"

The ones that are deploying hundreds and even thousands of systems.

"Which CUSTOMERS asked for non-standard Sun-Linux ?"

What's non-standard about Sun Linux? If it's not standard, that's a bug.

"Which CUSTOMERS asked for "GNOME only" ?"

When we said, "We have the resources to do two, and we do have to keep up CDE, so what else should we do?" most people (no, not everybody) said, "bring us GNOME." If a lot of people start asking for KDE on Solaris will we do it? Probably.

Finally, the comment about Sun having to stop paying "fat salaries" is pretty amusing. Is that what this is all about? Sun didn't offer you a big salary and you're ticked off?

Sorry about that. Sun pays my salary; it's not that big, but it's regular.

By the way, reiterating a previous question, who pays your salary? I'll bet everyone's interested to know now.