Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 19th Nov 2002 09:24 UTC
Oracle and SUN This past year has been a breakthrough for Sun for both their Linux and Solaris products. The most intriguing news of all is possibly the challenge Sun poses to Microsoft with their Desktop Initiative announced a couple of months ago. We spoke to Bill Moffitt, Product Line Manager of the Solaris Lifecycle, about Linux, the desktop and Solaris. Update: Bill Moffitt replies on our forums.
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Reality #1: Sun hardware vs. Dell hardware
by Red Pill on Thu 21st Nov 2002 03:06 UTC

It is very optimistic of Bill to try and compare Sun hardware (legendary for being a rip-off) with Dell hardware (the acknowledged industry value leader).

Maybe Bill thinks I will not pull up the Sun website and check his data. Bill is in for a surprise.

From today's Sun products website:

Sun Fire V100 Server
1 650Mhz UltraSPARC IIi processor
512k on-chip L2 cache
2GB memory (not expandable)
2 40GB 7200rpm IDE disk drive
24X CDROM
2 10/100BASE-T ethernet ports
...
Solaris 8
1 Year repair warranty / Business hours/8 hours availability
Business Hours/15 Day Parts Exchange
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Sun Fire V100 Server: $3,995

For a machine with an ancient SPARC processor, four thousand dollars? And what really amounts to a "lip service" warranty?

What does $4,000 buy you from Dell?

Well, for less money, $3,759 here's what I found today:

Dell PowerEdge 1650
2 Pentium III 1.13Ghz processors
512K on-chip cache (for each processor)
2 GB memory (expandable to 4GB)
2 73GB 10,000rpm Ultra SCSI 160 drives
24X CDROM
2 10/100BASE-T Ethernet ports
...
Red Hat 7.3 Professional
3Yr Same Day 4Hr Response Parts + Onsite Labor (M-F 8am-6pm)

COMPARISON:

For less money, Dell gives you:

Two processors vs. one processor
2260 Mhz vs. 650Mhz
1024K cache vs. 512K cache
Room to expand to 4GB RAM vs. maxing out at 2GB RAM
146GB of 10,000rpm U160 SCSI vs. 80GB of 7200rpm IDE
2 years less warranty
Send your machine back to Sun vs. Onsite service with Dell.
Wait 15 days for Sun service vs. 4hr Dell response

All in all, the Dell is a much better hardware value than the Sun server.

And you actually get real service vs. lip service! You cannot even buy a three year warranty on the Sun V100! To get the best 1 year warranty adds $552 to the price of the Sun.

There is basically no comparison. If you want to get ripped off, buy from Sun.

We could go up the server range, down the range, whatever. Dell is always less money for more computer compared to Sun.

- Red Pill