Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 19th Nov 2002 09:24 UTC
Oracle and SUN This past year has been a breakthrough for Sun for both their Linux and Solaris products. The most intriguing news of all is possibly the challenge Sun poses to Microsoft with their Desktop Initiative announced a couple of months ago. We spoke to Bill Moffitt, Product Line Manager of the Solaris Lifecycle, about Linux, the desktop and Solaris. Update: Bill Moffitt replies on our forums.
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red pill: java not a standard is good !
by mporta on Thu 21st Nov 2002 15:03 UTC

red pill: "They have not released Java to any recognized international standards group. They have maintained control over this "open" standard. Why?"

sun was right in not making java an official standard (iso, ecma). why? because of microsoft. imagine that: java is a standard, so ms can implement it. it can also add extension to the language, just like other did with c++ (gcc has added extensions to the c/c++ standards, and so did borland and microsoft). so now we have two slightly incompatible versions of java. but microsoft has about 95% of the desktop, and more developers. and more money to advertise it. which version you think will be the most used, after two or three years? the microsoft one. and so the major advantage of java is lost: multiplatform.
instead by mantaining control of java sun can sue ms, and stop them adding proprietary extensions.
you can also note that sun has never tried to stop open source implementations of java: there is gcj (gcc for java), kaffe, classpath, japhar, jikes, kimera, kissme, sablevm, wonka.
so even if java it's not officially a standard, anyone can implement it, just like a true standard.
so where is the problem here? i don't understand, really.
please explain. thanks.