"The Open Source community's answer is to ignore Microsoft's incredible technological lead - because it is proprietary and not a standard - and instead focusses on their own cool thing and self-gratifying cool features, because they think they can do better (which is where the ignorance combined with ego comes in)."Join the discussion at Advogato.
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1) Opensource has not ignored MS. Sometimes they try to accomodate like with Samba. Sometimes they follow like with Mono. Sometimes they immitate like gnumeric, Evolution or OpenOffice. However, most developers deep into the opensource arena never ignore MS. So when you provide a free alternative based on MS products how are you being Arrogant?
2) MS is not always in the technological lead as other readers point out but they are very keen on identifying features users want and implementing them.
This leads to a misconception of arrogance on the opensource folks. Why? Corporations like Redhat, IBM, ximian and other contribute to projects but they do not run them. The people that run them are usually folks who code this for one reason. They like it. They had an idea of how to do something and they actually -- gasp! -- did something about it. When people scream that their code or idea should be implemented the maintainers actually think of the good of the project and the code first.
The sad part is that this thread once again is going into the M$ sux versus the linux zealots crowd and that is sad.
MS has its uses. It makes a good exchange server, and the secreataries and gamers and business people need systems like MS. File servers are probably best kept on NT with Active Directory and all that even when samba starts supporting that Active this and that stuff.
I like linux for DNS servers. I got two P200 boxes that just chug with DNS and admin from webmin. Any noob administrator can deal with it. I like linux for my web servers. IIS does not cut it and even with Apache 2.0/NT2000 I have had less issues with the linux boxes. I like linux for backup servers because you don't have to dedicate Sun hardware to backup duties. I like Solaris+Oracle for database boxes.
People will probably will have different preferences and choices based on their situation but the difference is being experienced enough to realize that other people have different situations. People have different preferences and it does mean that they are M$ trolls or linux zealots.
The whole thread is just silly.
1) Opensource has not ignored MS. Sometimes they try to accomodate like with Samba. Sometimes they follow like with Mono. Sometimes they immitate like gnumeric, Evolution or OpenOffice. However, most developers deep into the opensource arena never ignore MS. So when you provide a free alternative based on MS products how are you being Arrogant?
2) MS is not always in the technological lead as other readers point out but they are very keen on identifying features users want and implementing them.
This leads to a misconception of arrogance on the opensource folks. Why? Corporations like Redhat, IBM, ximian and other contribute to projects but they do not run them. The people that run them are usually folks who code this for one reason. They like it. They had an idea of how to do something and they actually -- gasp! -- did something about it. When people scream that their code or idea should be implemented the maintainers actually think of the good of the project and the code first.
The sad part is that this thread once again is going into the M$ sux versus the linux zealots crowd and that is sad.
MS has its uses. It makes a good exchange server, and the secreataries and gamers and business people need systems like MS. File servers are probably best kept on NT with Active Directory and all that even when samba starts supporting that Active this and that stuff.
I like linux for DNS servers. I got two P200 boxes that just chug with DNS and admin from webmin. Any noob administrator can deal with it. I like linux for my web servers. IIS does not cut it and even with Apache 2.0/NT2000 I have had less issues with the linux boxes. I like linux for backup servers because you don't have to dedicate Sun hardware to backup duties. I like Solaris+Oracle for database boxes.
People will probably will have different preferences and choices based on their situation but the difference is being experienced enough to realize that other people have different situations. People have different preferences and it does mean that they are M$ trolls or linux zealots.