Linked by Kevin Adams on Thu 26th Dec 2002 03:38 UTC
Pahtz writes: "A very alpha release of The Humane Environment (THE) for MacOS was made on Christmas Eve. Jef Raskin, creator Apple's Macintosh, and author of the book "The Humane Interface", is the leader of the open-source THE Development Team."
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>> As I am sure you will know, Don, not all Amiga programs
>> open up their own screen. Internet browsers
>> usually run in a window on Workbench."
> I think that would be highly unusual. It would never
> occur to me to run a browser such as Voyager in a window
> on the Workbench screen. This is just the kind of program
> that most benefits from the public screens system.
Well, you are the first person that I know, who doesn't run Voyager (or any other browser) in a window on the Workbench screen. I have seen plenty of screenshots showing various Amiga browsers running on Workbench, so I think I am not alone with my attitude.
> I have come across a few Amiga users who mainly use
> Windows and prefer to run all programs on one screen (and
> set up a Windows-like Start menu). The same people would
> want a task bar and start menu on a Mac.
Well, having a task bar at the bottom *and* a menu bar at the top of the screen seems like overkill to me.
Anyway, I would not run any application with more than 1 window on the Workbench screen. Things would get far too confusing when Octamed and Cinema4D shared the same screen...
> I've taught hundreds of beginners on courses of that
> type.
Well, I was asked about a hundred times how one can re-name files in MacOS by the same 4 or 5 people. After that experience, I knew that there is no such thing as an self-explaining interface. Even the 'easy-to-use' MacOS interface is obviously too complex for some people to be able to use it after 'only' 1 or 2 days.
> However, nowadays everyone seems to learn Windows in
> schools, and computer beginners are rarely seen (by me)."
Interestingly enough, most children get along with computers pretty well. It's often older people who have serious problems learning how to use Windows or MacOS. Some cannot even understand the basic concept behind windows and icons, thus use the Start button all the time. If they cannot find something in the Start menu, it is non-existant to these people...
@ Don Cox
>> As I am sure you will know, Don, not all Amiga programs
>> open up their own screen. Internet browsers
>> usually run in a window on Workbench."
> I think that would be highly unusual. It would never
> occur to me to run a browser such as Voyager in a window
> on the Workbench screen. This is just the kind of program
> that most benefits from the public screens system.
Well, you are the first person that I know, who doesn't run Voyager (or any other browser) in a window on the Workbench screen. I have seen plenty of screenshots showing various Amiga browsers running on Workbench, so I think I am not alone with my attitude.
> I have come across a few Amiga users who mainly use
> Windows and prefer to run all programs on one screen (and
> set up a Windows-like Start menu). The same people would
> want a task bar and start menu on a Mac.
Well, having a task bar at the bottom *and* a menu bar at the top of the screen seems like overkill to me.
Anyway, I would not run any application with more than 1 window on the Workbench screen. Things would get far too confusing when Octamed and Cinema4D shared the same screen...
> I've taught hundreds of beginners on courses of that
> type.
Well, I was asked about a hundred times how one can re-name files in MacOS by the same 4 or 5 people. After that experience, I knew that there is no such thing as an self-explaining interface. Even the 'easy-to-use' MacOS interface is obviously too complex for some people to be able to use it after 'only' 1 or 2 days.
> However, nowadays everyone seems to learn Windows in
> schools, and computer beginners are rarely seen (by me)."
Interestingly enough, most children get along with computers pretty well. It's often older people who have serious problems learning how to use Windows or MacOS. Some cannot even understand the basic concept behind windows and icons, thus use the Start button all the time. If they cannot find something in the Start menu, it is non-existant to these people...