Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Wed 23rd Jan 2002 19:42 UTC, submitted by Jake Daniels
BeOS & Derivatives The BeOS version 5.1d0 seems to have been extensively leaked on the web the last few days (please respect the OSNews policy and do not post direct download URLs of the illegal beta on our forums). Dianne Hackborn, ex-Be engineer, now at PalmSource, gives more information on what is included in this version of BeOS. There is hardware OpenGL (update: GL is 'broken' on Dano), new networking stack, window decors, XML kit, new USB stack, brand new Printing Kit (and lots of printer drivers for it), new font engine, column list view, tooltip support, updated Media Kit, Interface Kit and app_server, and more. And of course, brand new drivers, like support for the Adaptec U160 SCSI controllers, better SB128 support etc. Reportedly, this BeOS version has some issues with many existing BeOS applications, mostly because of the changes in the app_server. The only peculliar thing is that, as far as we know, Palm's legal department did not take any action against the owners of the servers that carry the leaked beta.
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Response to Nik
by bkakes on Thu 24th Jan 2002 20:55 UTC

Now to bkakes do not call others with different opinions idoits when in fact it is you that is foolish. I shall proove it to you.

Let's examine how you "prooved" it, shall we?


But to deny them so vehemently is a slap in the face of this community.

No it isn't. You have to deny things strongly to this community or else they'll keep pestering you until the end of time. Look at people like yc, who for years have been taking the slightest bit of hope out of every statement (and boy, has he outdone himself this time) and turning it into what he considers a big deal. Much better to have a firm "no" than a soft one, for the soft answer would breed hope that will lead to nowhere except wasted time and effort.


Does it matter if some portion of the OS is open source? NO, why you ask look at Netscape 6.2

There's a big difference between "some" and "all," and notice that Netscape is only alive because AOL funds them. They could never rely on the "revenue" brought in from Netscape 6.2. So your "proof" is, well, fundamentally flawed at best.


That is what Palm is doing albeit on a much less important scale but a company that puts such practices first deserve nothing from us. To me its basically what goes around comes around.

They don't give it to you, so they're bastards. Interesting. You're absolutely right, though, they don't deserve anything from you. That, of course, doesn't justify your pirating their code. Apparently, this thought has apparently not occurred to you.


3)Companies especially many of the larger ones are controlled by the blood sucking market place. If you dont believe the greed in the modern corporate society just look at the Enron scandal it embodies everything that we say we are against.

I'm not against companies looking out for their own interests, and nor should anyone else be. Sure you have some bad apples--Enron being an obvious example--but that doesn't mean a free market system is bad. Jeffrey Dahmer was a man; are all humans therefore evil? Your reaoning is at best severly flawed. Proof by one example certainly makes things easier, though.


That vision is now crushed and it is that vision of not having to rely on the coporate machine that is the whole point of our support.

Actually, I used the BeOS because it was better, not because I wanted to fight "the man." Discussing the merits of corporations in a free society is a much larger task and I'm not about to go into it here, although I suggest you find some education on the subject for your own sake.


I do not pretend to like the current corporate society that we live in and so I frankly dont care about a entity that is owned by those who look only at its raw profit numbers every three months.

You don't like them, so it's ok to steal from them. Good philosophy. Now, where do you live? I wouldn't mind another TV and maybe a bike or something...