Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sun 23rd Feb 2003 20:42 UTC
Red Hat Red Hat is the undisputed commercial leader when it comes to Linux distros. A few years ago more distros were sharing the Linux market/userbase, but these days Red Hat has overcome its competitors in impressions, sales and popularity. Popularity doesn't always mean quality though (look at Windows9x for example), so after our world's first review of Red Hat 8.0 a few months ago, I wanted to check out the new product, Red Hat 8.1, destined to be released sometime in the next one or two months. I downloaded and installed the third beta of 8.1, codenamed Phoebe, and gave it a whirl. We will be featuring a full review when the final version becomes available, but here is a preliminary report on the current status, accompanied by three screenshots. Update: Added one more screenshot.
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Re: Toolkit mess
by Richi Plana on Sat 22nd Feb 2003 18:05 UTC

I wouldn't presume to say whether RedHat was right or wrong in choosing the Gnome2 platform nor Gnome2 to standardize on Gtk2, but I personally like those choices.

Eugenia has stated that she dislikes the Gtk2 programming paradigm and as a programmer, I happen to agree with her. But from reading what the Gnome2 designers & developers have been writing, it is obvious that they've standardized on their "Object-Oriented extender version of C" because C is 1) supported on most platform, 2) is the natural way to extend or create wrappers for most programming libraries (Java JNI, perl modules, Ruby, Python, Mono), and 3) presents the least chances of binary incompatibilities with various versions of the GCC compiler.

I would love to see 3 things: a stable C API (which we now have), language bindings for the languages I like, and support for these extensions in RAD IDE tools (think MS Visual C++ 6.0 with support for gnomemm libs).

I happen to like the Gnome2 framework. This includes ORBit2, GConf2, bonobo and the gnome2 widget set (haven't played with the printing libraries much). As this isn't a forum on toolkit virtues, I won't elaborate. Suffice it to say, RedHat 8.1, for me, is going the right way.