Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 13th Mar 2003 17:43 UTC
A KDE developer tipped me off to a recent thread discussed in the kde-core-devel mailing list regarding interoperability between KDE and Gnome. OSNews featured an interview with the usability experts from Gnome and KDE a few days ago and we expected that the spirit of co-operation would continue to get stronger every day. Luckily this is true regarding most of these developers, but not for all of them are sharing it. Here is a commentary on the issue followed by a summary of the long thread.
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[No, this is not nullifying. This is what you just said: "interoperability and integration". This is NOT merging.
I think this is where all your understanding problems lie Adam. You don't understand the levels of changes that need to be done. You *think* that KDE won't be KDE anymore and Gnome won't be Gnome anymore. This is wrong. You are overreacting I guess.]
Hey Eugenia, I understand things quite well thank you very much. I was involved in those conversations and I've stated many times that shared specs and so on are fine with me. You are wrong when you say that RedHat is not interested in nullifying the desktop because they are. They view any differences that are not superficial to the user as being bad and lead to fragmentation. They are different platforms and they have different goals and design ideals. They can not be completely integrated without the merging and this is what they are looking for.
Havoc has called for KDE and GNOME to adopt an underlying 'Star Trek' layer that would sit underneath all of the object platforms between the two desktops and Qt/Gtk+ would wrap this 'Star Trek' layer. He has said that he wants a common component framework, object model, messaging system, multimedia system, configuration system, ... all of it merged! Others have said that we should stop calling ourselves KDE developers and GNOME developers rather KDE/GNOME developers and have spoken of all these shared specs only as the 'first step' into eventual merging of the two. Go read *and* understand the lists and then start talking...
In his world the two desktops would be the same and applications would integrate equally well with each other. Gtk+ components embedded into KOffice and so on. Others have called for the same. Never mind the huge *hack* this would be and the sheer ugliness of all of it and the fact that it is not going to happen ... It doesn't change the fact that this is precisely what Havoc is saying.
So please, don't lie in these little posts and articles and claim that this is not what is going on and what is being said. The lists are open and everyone is free to go see this for themselves.