Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 17th Mar 2003 22:49 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces So many operating systems and so many graphical desktop environments... This article is a comparison of the UI and usability of several Desktop Environments (DEs), that have been widely used, admired and reviled: Windows XP Luna, BeOS 6 (Dano/Zeta), Mac OS X Aqua and Unix's KDE and Gnome. Read on which one got our best score on our long term test and usage.
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@makkus
by oGALAXYo on Wed 19th Mar 2003 11:37 UTC

Hi, well comparing GNOME with AMIGA is plain stupid (if I understood you correctly). I spent 1984-1996 on the Amiga as my main plattform. The whole system and philosophy GNOME vs. AmigaOS is different. The OS framework is different, the Desktop framework is different, the look and feel is different.

Well I have no problems with a Windows approach of the Desktop and as you can see from many replies here and on other places you see that other people don't have issues either. Besides the fact that Windows is a commercial OS doesn't make it bad. GNOME right now tends more to look like Macintrash OperatingSystem X with the NULL usability. Adopted 2 of the most retarded things from Windows (Registry) and the button reorder shit from (MacOS). then it stopped.

Even so, they have decided for this but I still put my own personal needs of a Desktop over this. While GNOME offers the pleasing eyecandy effect It still doesn't offer the needs and requirements of a whole Desktop. Now we are in the luck of having two Desktops offered. The cool one (which sucks because it stagnates and makes no real progress. A hackers joketoy. No matter how much SUN contributes to it (hoho ATK and the stupid Usability Review which was the cause for GNOME to fuck up that way without any value and some stupid bugfixes) that's basically ALL comming from SUN. Even now (some 1-2 weeks ago) Bill Hannemann got upset with on Desktop Development List because of no feedback to the ATK people and he was heavily critizising the teamwork. And on the otherhand we have the functional one KDE, rapid development, more and better apps, the apps are present today.

Sure they are 2 different Desktops, 2 different roads (at least one has a road, the other doesn't need one *g*), so to get work done people better decide to use the one that offers all the tools really necessary for this task. And KDE offers all these tools GNOME has nothing and no matter how much we like to talk it away. GNOME will require years to come to the level of usability and functionality of KDE.

And what you and others always forget, GNOME the GNU Object blah blah model blah. Was meant to be THE DESKTOP for Linux and not The Desktop that takes various roads and still don't find it's way to go. Still with 2.2 GNOME has no stable and functional framework. This explains why they need to adapt DBUS, that's why they are permanently putting wrappers inside the code to change e.g. 5 different Toolbars to 1 Toolbar and keep the API the same, that's why they still discuss where they should put the LibEGG code and in which library they should put the new Fileselector in and so on. All these things should have been thought of before switching from one plattform to another and not in the middle to something new. This only explains and shows how much crap is remaining in the existing code. The HIG came up months (if not 1 year after 2.0) and many applications got ported and look like ass and fixing them will take them ages (well probably never fixed).

Whenever I read people talking how nice and clean and well layouted GNOME is then I say 'wow an ATK user who is blind'. Even those who worked for longer and more and better onto GNOME than others never realized how ugly and unesthetical their Desktop is (not before I made the UI review) this only shows how unprofessional and unqualified these people are making a Business related Desktop and some people I know started to fix these issues from ONE disaster into another HIG disaster (that is, they spent half a day fixing the shit and it's still not HIG conform which usually takes me less than 5 seconds to find out). Because they work on it individualy instead talking to each other and make a real plan howto do the changes so other people who like to bring it up to HIG level can benefit from it). There is no teamplay in GNOME only freaking dictators.