The up to now highly anticipated Red Hat Linux 9 is finally released. OSNews had its hands to the final version of Red Hat Linux 9 for over 3 weeks now and we were able to evaluate it in a number of ways. The final version is not too different than the Phoebe-3 beta for which we wrote a preview recently.
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a way for a user to easily install applications in its own space without the need for a root password and without the almost always accompanied dependency hell,
... (later in the review) ...
Ok, at one point in the review, you say there is a way to avoid dependency hell, but then you say ...
Most of the time, most users including myself will be able to go around these problems, but newbies might need the ability to download packages that are similar to the ones on Windows, BeOS and MacOSX, where no dependency problems occur.
So is it or is it not possible to avoid RPM dependency problems in Redhat 9? One of the first things I tried to install in Redhat was Ogle (for DVD). I double clicked on the rpm (which I got from freshrpms.net), nothing happened. So then I ran it from the command line and it said something like libdvdread.so could not be found, so I would say that 'dependency hell, at least as it pertains to RPM, is still very real. Of course, it didn't take me long to figure out that I needed to install the libdvdread library, but how the hell is Joe User supposed to know that? Either way, the whole installation process is still a pain in the ass, having to download/install multiple RPMs just to get one program running. apt-get might work better, but needs to be installed by default and kick RPM to the curb.
mp3 will skip sometimes when loading a new web page with Mozilla
Yes, I noticed this also, but loading any app ... not just Mozilla. And I thought htat Linux was supposed to be able to run 4 mpegs, format a floppy drive, get 800FPS in Quake 3, and burn a CD at the same time without missing a beat? Or was that BeOS?
BTW: DVD playback is also very jerky in both Ogle & Xine on an Athlon 1.2ghz with 384MB RAM & ATI Radeon 7500. And yes, my hard drive settings are fine - both mp3 & dvd playback work flawlessly in Win2k.
while loading OOo takes more than 20 seconds.
Yes, same here.
As for Redhat not being for newbies, could someone come up with a definitive list as to exactly WHICH distros are for newbies and which are not? Let's clear the air once and for all on this.
a way for a user to easily install applications in its own space without the need for a root password and without the almost always accompanied dependency hell,
... (later in the review) ...
Ok, at one point in the review, you say there is a way to avoid dependency hell, but then you say ...
Most of the time, most users including myself will be able to go around these problems, but newbies might need the ability to download packages that are similar to the ones on Windows, BeOS and MacOSX, where no dependency problems occur.
So is it or is it not possible to avoid RPM dependency problems in Redhat 9? One of the first things I tried to install in Redhat was Ogle (for DVD). I double clicked on the rpm (which I got from freshrpms.net), nothing happened. So then I ran it from the command line and it said something like libdvdread.so could not be found, so I would say that 'dependency hell, at least as it pertains to RPM, is still very real. Of course, it didn't take me long to figure out that I needed to install the libdvdread library, but how the hell is Joe User supposed to know that? Either way, the whole installation process is still a pain in the ass, having to download/install multiple RPMs just to get one program running. apt-get might work better, but needs to be installed by default and kick RPM to the curb.
mp3 will skip sometimes when loading a new web page with Mozilla
Yes, I noticed this also, but loading any app ... not just Mozilla. And I thought htat Linux was supposed to be able to run 4 mpegs, format a floppy drive, get 800FPS in Quake 3, and burn a CD at the same time without missing a beat? Or was that BeOS?
BTW: DVD playback is also very jerky in both Ogle & Xine on an Athlon 1.2ghz with 384MB RAM & ATI Radeon 7500. And yes, my hard drive settings are fine - both mp3 & dvd playback work flawlessly in Win2k.
while loading OOo takes more than 20 seconds.
Yes, same here.
As for Redhat not being for newbies, could someone come up with a definitive list as to exactly WHICH distros are for newbies and which are not? Let's clear the air once and for all on this.