“When you’re done installing SUSE Linux 10.1 OSS, your desktop system is not complete. You might still need support for Java programs, MP3 audio files, and browser plugins for Macromedia Flash, Adobe Acrobat, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Video. You may also want to add support for playing DVD videos on your computer, and to try out the new XGL graphical toys. Here’s how to effectively make SUSE Linux 10.1 into the perfect desktop OS.”
Always useful to have this handy. I see the nVidia drivers are now no longer in YaST and you have to get the from nVidia’s website. This makes no difference to me as the YaST method never seemed to work anyway.
SuSE 10.1 includes a bash script to install nvidia.
to run
<ctrl> <alt> <F2>
log in as root
init 3
tiny-nvidia-installer –update
thhis goes out to nvidia’s site grabs the latest driver and installs it for you the beuty is you can use it to keep your driver at the latest version
once this is done
init 5
and injoy latest driver nvidia goodness.
Edited 2006-05-21 03:53
“The installation utilit will come up. Choose Yes (or whatever is the default) for all of the options. When the installer is finished, it will bring you back to the command line. Use this command to restart your computer:
reboot”
NO, how many times do we have to say, YOU DONT NEED TO REBOOT UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR KERNEL.
I disagree about XGL being useless, I guess you used to plain old boring desktop.
“I disagree about XGL being useless, I guess you used to plain old boring desktop.”
I agree with you.. While most of it is just eye candy there are some useful things. Examples being: Window Picker (its just a mouse jesture and great is you have multiple windows open) and holding ctrl-alt- down arrow to show all desktops.. It has some useful features and runs remarkably well.
I disagree about XGL being useless, I guess you used to plain old boring desktop.
The guy is right and wrong at the same time.
While I disagree that XGL is useless in the context that it provides hadrdware accelerated gui, effects and all that I have to say that, at this point, it IS useless for some people. I really like XGL and compiz but until they can make it work on more than one screen (dual head) there’s not much use for it in the worksation area.
You make XGL work with duel screen, i’ve seen someone post a video of it working in the ubuntu forum.
If you’re going to install all the extra proprietary stuff, why not save yourself the hassle and just download the non-oss version of SUSE?
You mean the AddOn-Product?
There is no Non-OSS version of SUSE Linux. There are:
– SUSE Linux (100% OSS)
– An AddOn-Product (various licensed proprietary software packages, fonts, firmware packages etc.)
The AddOn-Product can be downloaded on a separate CD and included into the initial installation, but it can also be added as an extra source afterwards.
G.W,
Re: There is no Non-OSS version of SUSE Linux.
Posting on a workstation that is running the non-OSS SUSE Linux 10.1 available since 05/18/06 on DVD here http://en.opensuse.org/Download Unless the OpenSUSE.org site changed things recently after downloading the DVD iso for 32-bit K3B clearly identified the iso file as “non-OSS SUSE Linux 10.1” It came with Acrobat Reader, Flash, Java, etc on the DVD iso. You’re correct in saying that there is an add on repository for those wanting to install additional software if they first chose the OSS SUSE Linux download. There’s also a mini version for those that want to download everything over the net but I’ve never had success even with a fast broadband cable connection.
What “I don’t get” as the original post was titled is why did Novell make this release more difficult instead of streamlined for the installation? Such as what is the reasoning behind having 3 shortcut icons in “KMenu/System/Configuration/Install Software”, “KMenu/System/Configuration/Remove Software” and “KMenu/System/Configuration/Update Software”? After all all of this can be done in the YAST Control Center with it’s shortcut icon found here “KMenu/System/Configuration/YAST Control Center” which still for logical reasons requires Administrator access. Is it because Novell is focusing more on Gnome for their Enterprise line that they failed to make a streamlined KDE desktop? If so then why couldn’t they make Gnome at least more appealing for consumers instead of using the outdated default theme they’ve used with each distribution release?
While I like Beagle being more integrated and a few other advancements such as XGL I find the developer team didn’t work together as much as they should have. It’s almost like the team couldn’t agree on one thing so they tried to give the consumer a lot right at the begining.
Edited 2006-05-21 04:51
There is no non-oss version of SUSE for free download. Even the OSS is not so easy to find on the web (as it was before). Maybe it is related to the fact that Novell Linux division is no longer in red numbers. On OSS 10.0 I was not able to get working mplayer (or other media player) because of some licencing issues. I have already decided to switch to some other distro. Now I have to try this AddOn and reconsider. But I am affraid this will be not the end of the story anyway.
Everyone please stop saying there is no non-oss version for free download! It’s right here on the opensuse website:
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
The five CD’s come with an add-on CD, but the DVD has everything on it. Enjoy (but use a mirror though) http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version
…..for the ATI 9800 Pro that is.
It could be my type of screen, I’m running a LEC LCD 20″ widescreen, and the aspect ratio is totally out.
Only on Redhat Fedora Core 5 did the OSS ATI drivers work out of the box.
I was shopping for a new distro, and have tried Redhat, Gentoo (which I still use as a server and love it), Mandrake, and now Suse.
Now this guide has been released so I can install the proprietory drivers I will give this a shot when I get back home.
Things are starting to look up!
SuSE like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/Spaz007/78ff2f91.jpg
After reading that i can install browser plugins for Macromedia Flash, Adobe Acrobat, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Video. now I’m excited about suse 10.1 os. i think they are finally
starting to understand that it takes proprietary software/programs inorder to survive in the desktop. OSS alone was not measuring up. this is truly a move forward.
Happycamper,
Re: After reading that i can install browser plugins for Macromedia Flash, Adobe Acrobat, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Video. now I’m excited about suse 10.1 os. i think they are finally
starting to understand that it takes proprietary software/programs inorder to survive in the desktop. OSS alone was not measuring up. this is truly a move forward.
Including Flash, Acrobat Reader, RealPlayer and MP3 codec support in the distribution is nothing new. Novell providing XGL, changes to YAST, dropping SUSE Watcher for ZENworks and improved networking tools are some of the things that are new for the SUSE Linux 10.1 release.
As for your confusion on Windows Media Player support the distribution comes with Xine frontend video players which can use third party codecs to play a variety of video. The Packman YAST Source repository provides a free “w32codec” optional install package that allows video playback of WMV, QT, etc. The reason the package is not included with the non-retail release through OpenSUSE.org is due to individual country legal issues which prohibit commercial licensed codecs being included that are not legally provided by the developer (ie: Microsoft).
>The Packman YAST Source repository provides a free >”w32codec” optional install package that allows video >playback of WMV, QT, etc. The reason the package is not >included with the non-retail release through >OpenSUSE.org
Yes, but the article didn’t say to add Packman sources, so I assumed that he was saying that w32codecs are now being distributed by SUSE. Anyone able to clarify? Thanks!
I was only refereing to the proprietary plugins from their respected owners
And thtnks for mentioning about packman YAST source repository it provides a free “w32codec”
Ooops, I never saw the part about adding the Packman source in the article, I just saw download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/
download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/
This article seems to be saying that w32codecs are included in the official non-OSS repository from SUSE? Is that correct? I thought w32codecs were flat out illegal, so SUSE couldn’t distribute them, and they had to be retrieved from some 3rd party mirror.
Part of the problem with finding and downloading stuff on 10.1 might be that SuSE are in the throes of switching to the new rug-novell-zmd package manager but it is not fully done yet. It is a bit beta-ish and can clash with YaST resulting in foobar all round.
I’ve pretty well done what the Jem Report suggested but also added sources for kde-supplementary and for the guru repository. With these and packman I have been able to download everything I want, oss and non-oss, multimedia codecs, java and all. I’ve had this working in both YaST and the new rug-novell-zmd stuff too but for the time being YaST is probably safer.
The result is to me very impressive. SuSE 10.1 does all I want and then some, and speedwise it flies on my PC. Lots of nice, helpful touches around the place. If SuSE can sort out the package manager stuff, which I’m sure they will in a few weeks, 10.1 will be very hard to beat as the top distro for those who want a full-up, gui-based Windows replacement, imho. There still seem to be a few wonky areas, though. I can’t yet get ndiswrapper to fire up OK, and the SLE mailing list is throwing up quite a few posts from folks who are having issues with the Sax2 graphics configurator. Fortunately, these aren’t major issues for me and 10.1 runs better here than 10.0 did.
My one prayer is that the Jem Report’s excellent articles never, ever have to include a section called “How to install and configure KDE on OpenSuSE”. It’s the KDE that makes this distro, imho.
Edited 2006-05-21 14:24
this piece of art operating system is so messed up. i downloaded the non-free dvd. the installer sucks so bad it’s not funny. then getting the things that should work OUT OF THE BOX! you got to beet you head of the table to get to work. oh the ati installer has a gui! it makes the rpm. but suse makes it so you cant install it. the rest looks good. good thing i didn’t pay for this. and i burnt it to a dvd-rw. don’t belive me try it for yourself. if i ran suse i get pissed off and fire some people for letting this out. i know i would not buy this.
Any idea of upgrading to GNOME 2.14 on SUSE 10.1
The article is certainly informative, I have the SUSE disks sitting in my CD rack and something like this article is just what I’ll need after installing it.
The title irks me very much though. The term hacker means nothing today, people following well documented instructions on how to compile drivers think they’re ubber leet hackers, kids dabbling in Visual Basic think they’re “l33t h4x0r5”, Joe Sixpacks think they’re hackers because they’ve read the XBox 360 specs so many times over they can recite them back word for word. I’m not trying to slam the article here, it’s a usefull article with good information, but I think the title misuses of the term “hacker”. Sadly no word is sacred any more, no title carries any value for long when it’s no longer given, but taken, and when people can get away with slapping it on anything and everything they want.