http://www.osnews.com/story/10211/OpenSolaris_Leadership_Selected Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:40:38 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? These are a smart bunch, who I think will do a good job representing their respective groups (2 from Sun, 2 outside Sun, 1 from FLOSS). It also helps solidify that OpenSolaris is credible and on track, because these people are not industry lightweights and have long careers and established reputations.

If the trolls keep accusing Sun of lying about OpenSolaris, they are basically accusing these people directly, now. Good luck with that. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm very happy to see Rich Teer in there. I really love his book, and he seems like someone who knows his way around Solaris internals. Now, I would *really* like to see some more (perhaps even buildable?) code from OpenSolaris... or just an update to their website. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Anyone but Schily is fine Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I prefer open-source projects where leadership is determined by commits in code and contributions to the project rather than selected by a corporation. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I prefer open-source projects where leadership is determined by commits in code and contributions to the project rather than selected by a corporation.

Yes, because if someone can code, they must be a good manager! Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I too prefer leadership of one who does the work from "community", but in the beginning, there must be someone to sort-of "bootstrap" the project... no?

I don't think it was/is wrong that Netscape employees led Mozilla or Sun employees lead OpenOffice.org. Same applies for OpenSolaris. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Actually the community advisory board is composed of 5 members (2 appointed from within Sun, 2 elected by the OpenSolaris Pilot Community, and 1 selected by Sun from the open source community). So they are not all appointed by a corporation. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Actually, the CAB members were appointed by a corporation. It's just that not all of the CAB members are employees of Sun.


Re: Schily

What do you have against Joerg? He has a long history of involvement with F/OSS, is very good at coding kernel stuff and user-land apps several different OS, and is (imho) just the sort of contrarian that Sun needs on this CAB. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Man, Sun looks so silly trying to catch up to Open Source.
It's like: OK, how do I do this? Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sun trying to catch up to Open Source? Hardly.

Maybe if you checked http://openoffice.org, http://www.gnome.org, http://www.netbeans.org or even http://sunsource.net or read some of the RFCs you'd know that Sun has been and continues to be very active in and with Open Source.

Get facts and get up to date before you try flaming. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Man, Sun looks so silly trying to catch up to Open Source.
It's like: OK, how do I do this?

The ignorance displayed on this forum never ceases to amaze me. You should really brush up on your open source history before making comments like this. Seriously... Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Isn't SCO going to sue SUN if they release the Source for free?
Or what happens if MS buys SCO? They will sue SUN that's what they'll do. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sun contributed NFS with an open license to the community, and at first used BSD code, some of which was under an open license, before the term "open source" was invented. They also have contributed, more recently, several other apps as pointed out by James. (Well, in the case of GNOME it didn't originate it, but they were the driving force behind GNOME2's interface guidelines and testing.) Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sun has essentially unrestricted access and rights to AT&T Unix(tm) code due to a contract written with them a couple of decades ago, so I wouldn't worry about SCO (or Microsoft) keeping it from being released if I were you. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, McBride said something like, "We'll see about that" , a few weeks ago when he got a question about OpenSolaris. SCO isn't going to win against IBM so if they sue SUN maybe they have to buy them out or something. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I prefer open-source projects where leadership is determined by commits in code and contributions to the project rather than selected by a corporation.

So you'd prefer for OpenSolaris to be run by the Solaris developers that Sun employs? To date, they have the most commits in code and contributions? Is that what you're really arguing for? Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I figure SCO wouldn't sue Sun until the lawsuit with IBM is settled or over. I figure SCO dosn't have the resouces to sue both IBM and Sun.

But then again, they may.


So you'd prefer for OpenSolaris to be run by the Solaris developers that Sun employs? To date, they have the most commits in code and contributions? Is that what you're really arguing for?


That is how it usually works in open-source, though this is infeasible in your situation it appears. Communities usually find their own leaders or are elected in open-source, they are not artifically chosen, especially before the release of the source-code. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linus Torvalds is the leader of the Linux community because he started the whole thing. Why should Sun not enjoy the same privilege? Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? @James
Actually, the CAB members were appointed by a corporation. It's just that not all of the CAB members are employees of Sun.

Uh, NO THEY WERE NOT. Read what I wrote again, two of the five people were selected by the OpenSolaris Pilot Program members, NOT A CORPORATION. STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION. Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gee Shawn, you don't have to shout.


The OpenSolaris CAB would not exist unless Sun created it.

The OpenSolaris pilot members could only elect their two most-preferred candidates for the CAB. Note, not to the CAB.

There is a difference between selecting people and appointing people. Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments