http://www.osnews.com/story/10294/USENIX_2005_Unix_in_Southern_California Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2012, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:12:48 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I think most of us know where Andy Tanenbaum stands when it comes to linux. But it would indeed be fun to attend.

http://bitsofnews.com Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Brilliant report on USENIX, it was a pleasure to read. Hope its as good for the next installment. Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? What does Andy Tanenbaum think of Linux? Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? This did catch me off gaurd. I think that the conference attendece is also affected by 2 major linux conferences in the US every year. It is a shame that the associations that run these things don't work together. Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? This is a link to the tanenbaum/linus flamewar.

http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/mhonarc-files/obsolete/ Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? # Subject: LINUX is obsolete
# From: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum)
# Date: 29 Jan 92 12:12:50 GMT
# Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
# Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

I think his views may have changed since 92 ?? Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Personally I think LISA is a much better conference for most Unix people than the general USENIX conference. Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I'm practically down the street and I didn't go. That's because I'm too po' to go. Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I enjoyed reading your article. Thanks for your time pal! Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Here's a couple of things he's said more recently:

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/followup/ Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Just wondering if its a collection of the old Battle Axe Unix bigots(greasy hair, long unkempt beard) parading around like they invented Unix. Those people annoy me to no end and they prove useless in modern IT business. Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? No, Stallman won't be there. After all, it's GNU (Not Unix). Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Guess things haven't changed since 1992 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I think there is no swedes that has enough money to move their asses over there, even if they are geeks.

Btw i'm finnish but live in swede, and I don't have money so give me some Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? For all I know, Usenix never really lived in Europe, so a lot of the European people in the open source world are not really convinced to go to the USA to attend those meetings. That plus the fact the USA is being overly anal with regard to the information gathering on the plane ride, which many of us in Europe boycot. Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Nice report. Thanks for making the effort to do it. Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Quote: "In fact, there were quite a few Scandinavians at the conference. I don't know why - is USENIX well-advertised over there?"

In Norway you get a USENIX membership if you are a member of NUUG (Norwegian UNIX User Group). Thus we (NUUG members) read about the conferences in ;login:. Don't know about the other Scandinavian countries though. Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I have found that Usenix is one of the most intellectually stimulating conferences....... Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments