http://www.osnews.com/story/11316/Mozilla_1_7_10_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 20 May 2013 07:56:25 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?8122 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8122 ...I thought Mozilla was going to cancel the Mozilla Suite by now...but I've also heard from someone that the community around this software suite was going to rename it Seamonkey and continue development after Mozilla decides to go only with Firefox/Thunderbird/Sunbird. Anybody know what's the real story? Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (1c3d0g) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8143 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8143 Posting currently using Mozilla suite 1.7.10. I've used the suite since the .9x days... my transition to Firefox and Thunderbird is taking some time. However the suite continues development I will most likely prefer to use it rather than FF/TB.

This being said.... Firefox and Thunderbird are really softwares. I recommend them to any man, woman, or child that will listen.

I geuss you could say I'm grizzled... and a little stubborn.

... All good things, eh? Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8146 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8146 Got a good clue on Slashdot board on how to stop those popup ads . The reason FF can't block them is that they aren't popups !
http://dhtml-menu.com/menu-demos/demo347.html
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/

You use ADBLOCK and block javascript/css/dhtml tags.

I used 'dhtml' and the hoverad link i posted stopped producing it.

I am not an expert on js/css/dhtml . I know of 'divs' also that might work. Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8151 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8151 Mozilla Foundation will not make new releases of the suite, but they will release maintenance release of the latest release: 1.7. 1.7.10 is one of the maintenance releases.

SeaMonkey is the project result of volunteers taking the code to make future releases of the Mozilla suite. They are not going to be official Mozilla Foundation releases, but Mozilla Foundation is providing the infrastructure (servers, bugzilla, etc) to help the volunteers. Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8168 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8168 The installer still, after several versions, leaves a lot to wish for... Billions of dialog windows that appear and disappear are an annoyance... one single window for everything should be enough...

Still bugs with print preview that's been there for a very long time now (mouse pointer in page margin and scroll wheel is ineffective... move mouse pointer to the content of the page and it starts working again, and other issues)

Still steals image type associations like jpg, gif and png, despite updating from an old version where those were specifically UNCHECKED...

There are other issues that I just don't remember exactly what they were about right now.

At least it looks like they finally resize the download dialog window properly after months and months of it being flawed.

Most, if not all, of the issues I have had, and still have, with mozilla are exactly the same, or worse, in firefox.

I suppose slow progress is better than no progress, but there are too many things that don't work in a browser that have been around long enough to work out those issues by now... Except maybe the developers simply don't care about these issues and just want to work on features that pretty much noone needs at all. Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8197 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8197 i dont think i have any of these issues.... Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8278 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8278 Look here, for more information on the Seamonkey project:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Home_Page Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8283 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8283 Quick launch in Mozilla 1.7.10[1] is buggy. After a quick launch copy (^C and the context menu), space/up/down/pgup/pgdn and probably more stuff is broken. I don't use any extensions. The regression is reproducible on different (Win2k) systems.

[1] Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8291 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8291 By not using javascript altogether,safer anyway. Sun, 24 Jul 2005 06:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8324 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8324 I'm running slackware 10.1 with updates and recently upgraded to mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.10.tar.gz from mozilla.org. When I switch between folders (mail or news) in the left-most vertical pane (using mouse or keyboard), the right panes (top showing list of messages, bottom showing selected message) don't always switch/refresh. This never happened when using previous mozilla releases.

Other folks using WinXP have reported the same problem on usenet with this release. Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8353 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8353 OSSコミュニテ&#1 2451;の「日本病& #12301;
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At least you can post in english, unlike the guy above! Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8508 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8508 By not using javascript altogether,safer anyway.

Yeah, and you could probably make your web surfing faster by disabling images completely. That shouldn't inconvenience anyone either, right? Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8615 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8615 I can confirm this annoying bug for FreeBSD. It makes Mozilla-Mail quite unusable. Switching to next folder with unread mails (with space bar) doesn't work anymore, because the content of the message window is not refreshed.

Maybe they're trying to force us to switch to thunderbird. :-)

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kaasboer Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?8981 http://www.osnews.com/thread?8981 just for beeing the nerd I am, here is the babelfish version of that post (it's not verbatim, had to make som hand tuning/editing before the xml-parser would swallow it):

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