This is a step-by-step instruction about how to set up a web-, mail- and ftp server with SuSE 9.3. It comes with 47 screenshots so that even Linux beginners can install such a server without any problems. Of course, it’s of use to experienced system administrators as well.
SuSE Help Center while providing such information is not as user friendly as this article. The author should consider forwarding this to Novell so they can update the help docs.
In OS X Server its not only easier (grapical GUI) but Faster to install and setup. Sure OS X Server dosent come free, but why not go after the best.
Is this some l33t thing that separates the comand line linux bogots? ( no flame just, dosent it take longer to type rather than move a mouse and type)
Try using rsync to back up several gigabytes and thousands of files from remote locations to your OS X server. Admittedly, this was OS X, not OS X server, but I’d be surprised if the problem only existed in one and not the other.
I found the OS X rsync would run out of file handles and sometimes cause the OS itself to become unstable enough that a reboot was required. Killing the process would not free up the resources.
OS X is a great desktop OS. I use it every day. But I sure as heck won’t use it for a server, especially one I need to have in a remote location. Something Linux has excelled at for over 13 years, by my own first-hand experience.
Even Windows makes it easier…
Its easier, and IIS6 is 100x more secure than apache 1 or 2, seeing as both of them STILL have unpatched critical vulnerabilities, IIS’s stopped after IIS5.
Run Windows update, Done (practically)
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what ever
SuSE Help Center while providing such information is not as user friendly as this article. The author should consider forwarding this to Novell so they can update the help docs.
Agreed.Furthermore it’s a fairly accessible article.
I tried Suse 9.3, but it was too unstable. I was getting kernel panics and the desktop would lock up on me. I wish they would put some more testing and quality engineering into their products. I’m back to W2K3 which has proven to be rock solid.
I’ve found SuSE 9.3 to be very nice to use and have experienced only one problem. Occasionally a File dialog will hang. Very, very annoying.
Other than that, SuSE 9.3 has been rock solid, and a wonderful platform for a workstation, and in many cases a server. Though, I tend to use Trustix for servers.
I’ve had the opposite with SLP 9.3 performing better than the previous release while offering more than any other Linux distribution or even Windows for that matter. As for commenting about Windows when I was a former Windows user I had several issues that required a lot of down time (ie: viruses/trojan/worms, spyware, etc). It was frustrating getting MS cryptic errors displayed that would require an I.T. Systems Admin to understand or paying MS a high amount of money to troubleshoot the issue. I also like the fact with SLP I didn’t need third party install discs to install drivers for things such as the motherboard which I did require with Windows XP Professional. Also not having to restart the system after installing software is nice on SLP which current Windows still requires in most cases.
I too personally had many problems with SUSE 9.3. bttv driver wouldn’t work. Nvidia driver install was a pain compared to other distros (like Ubuntu). Too much KDE stuff integrated into Gnome (for instance, using kdesu instead of gksu). I remember Novell talking sometime ago about making an integrated Gnome/Kde desktop. But simply using KDE utilities so they stick out and look funny on the Gnome desktop when Gnome has perfectly ample compatable utilities isn’t making an integrated desktop.
I personally use CentOS 4.1, so it is a bit behind SuSE 9.3 but I think I can live without all the new features in exchange for rock-hard stability.
“I tried Suse 9.3, but it was too unstable.”
I can believe it. But instead of spending a fortune on W2K3, you could use CentOS 4, rock solid, as another user said.
i cant believe it and of course he could try centOS as well as a bazzillion other distros… yada yada yada
In OS X Server its not only easier (grapical GUI) but Faster to install and setup. Sure OS X Server dosent come free, but why not go after the best.
Have more than 10 users and you soak up your OSX server due to bad threading capabillity.I remember a thread here on OSNews a while ago.
Is this some l33t thing that separates the comand line linux bogots?
On the contrary it’s trivial admin related UNIX stuff.
OSX for Intel platforms has been leaked in .iso form. Just thought I’d mention this as somehow it didn’t get posted on what pretends to be a site about OS news. Check your torrents skiddies.
That’s not true. What is floating around in P2P networks passing as OS X for proprietary Intel Pentio systems is a fake. It’s been nuked on all respected BitTorrent sites already. And good luck running OS X for Pentio on your $200 emachines box mom buoght you, not gonna work. Are you such a cheap ass that you can’t fork $500 for a Mac Mini?
“Is this some l33t thing that separates the comand line linux bogots? ( no flame just, dosent it take longer to type rather than move a mouse and type)”
The Command Line IS actually faster for things like this if you type fast enough and your fingers are used to typing out commands and you know what you’re doing. Going back and forth between a mouse and a keyboard is also terribly annoying once you’ve become proficient on the command line. The only thing better I suppose would be if they came up with a decent way of typing with a mouse^^.
Related to the article though, excellent information, it’ll help loads when I’m setting up my server. I wont be using it on SuSE but the concept remains in-tact. Excellent resource, kudos to the author and my best regards.
But this howto explains how to install apache using APT. How can this be done using the SUSE/Yast specific tools?
apt4rpm??
I especially liked the bit “Accept the flash-player license” – right!! Hilarious. But I fear for in the not so distant future *all* server OSes may have Flash preinstalled…
SUSE 9.3 isn’t really a server OS. Looking at SLES9 and seeing if it had flash would make more sense.
This is cute; the perfect *server* installs KDE in the “base installation”… no there is no bloat… none at all.
YaST doesn’t give you many choices about what to install. .. In Fedora and Mandrake that’s different – you can select which packages to install.
I use Suse 9.3 pro on a server. Alot of times i just ssh instead of turing on the monitor.
Using yast on the console allows me to search and install any package i want. I’m sure you can do that with the gui version as well.
Yes, but not during the installation…
During the install, as well as post-install, you can select or de-select any package you wish. I am not sure what you are talking about?
YaST doesn’t give you many choices about what to install. .. In Fedora and Mandrake that’s different – you can select which packages to install
Ummm, 3 clicks and it does. Or use the Search utility in YaST.
> YaST doesn’t give you many choices about what
> o install. .. In Fedora and Mandrake that’s
> different – you can select which packages to
> install.
Why do you say that? It’s not true. YaST lets you do two things:
– accepting a preselected set of packages like “KDE”, “GNOME”, “Office”, “Development”, “Minimal graphical system”, “Minimal system without X” etc.
– selecting and deselecting every single package that you might want or that you don’t want.
It is simply not the truth that YaST doesn’t let you select individual packages. If you didn’t find the option, then you didn’t look.
I can’t use SuSE while they include non-free software like KDE and Qt
> I can’t use SuSE while they include
> non-free software like KDE and Qt
Troll alert!
1. You can choose to not install KDE and Qt
2. KDE and Qt are FREE:
http://opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php
I have to say that Ive been using SUSE since 6.1. I haven’t had a kernel panic in SUSE since about 8.2. My guess is you are tinkering with the kernel and rebuilding it. Or pretending to know how to load modules. Ive installed it on Dell’s, Gateways, HP boxes, parts computers from shows. Any and everyones X86 machine and never a problem with a kernel panic in any of the 9 series SUSE products. (I wont say they dont happen. But kernel panics are so linux circa 1999 on a clean distro install)
Now if you were talking about drives and installing from dvd and not seeing the DVD, thats a different story, or getting sound or ATI cards to work. But hey, thats linux in general, not just SUSE
As for the nvidia install.. I guess using yast to download it was too hard? It does it on the install as well with yast.. And if you want to update run tiny-nvidia-installer. ooooh… pretty hard.
As for KDESU… That only happens when calling YaST, because of QT. You want it to stop? recode it in GTK, it is open source afterall. everything else you can switch to gnomesu if you dont install the kde desktop.
In fact if you update through Apt on SUSE and dont have KDE installed, it gives gnomesu precedence over kdesu.
Flame on.
Oh yeah. Im sooooo sick of hearing ubuntu this, ubuntu that. Its just as flaky as all the rest, thats if you can get it to install. And they are all flaky; every OS on the planet.
Anyway use what you want. But substituting CentOS for SUSE? why not just use fedora?
As for the nvidia install.. I guess using yast to download it was too hard? It does it on the install as well with yast.. And if you want to update run tiny-nvidia-installer. ooooh… pretty hard.
Well, I would call the nvidia script from YOU borking X Windows so I had to go to http://www.nvidia.com with links, download the driver, use the console version of yast to install gcc, and then install the driver, then go and fix all of the places sax2 fucked up my xorg.conf file a little bit more difficult than most distros, wouldn’t you? It has happened on both SUSE 9.2 and 9.3 with me with a GeForce FX 5200 (a card fully supported by Nvidia’s Linux Drivers). Stick your grandma in-front of a flashing terminal with no gui and tell her:
“Oh, the Nvidia driver’s fucked. Go ahead and edit a cryptic text file to fix it, and do this using a cryptic text editor program”
Anyway use what you want. But substituting CentOS for SUSE? why not just use fedora?
Do you have to question every one else about what they do? And do you have to assume you know everything MR. AC? Just as you were wrong about the Nvidia drivers, you were wrong about this. I was trying to substitute SUSE for CentOS, not the other way around. And SUSE wasn’t nearly as stable as CentOS is. I was looking for newer features, but quickly ran back to CentOS.
Oh, and about hearing Ubuntu this and Ubuntu that…thats funny. I just took Ubuntu off of my harddrive a few days ago in frustration because it pissed me off so much. I just pointed out that installing the Nvidia drivers wasn’t a pain on Ubuntu, and it sure as hell was on SUSE.
“Well, I would call the nvidia script from YOU borking X Windows so I had to go to http://www.nvidia.com with links, download the driver, use the console version of yast to install gcc, and then install the driver, then go and fix all of the places sax2 f***** up my xorg.conf file a little bit more difficult than most distros, wouldn’t you? It has happened on both SUSE 9.2 and 9.3 with me with a GeForce FX 5200 (a card fully supported by Nvidia’s Linux Drivers).”
I have the very same video card, and the NVidia drivers included with SUSE from version 9.1 to 9.3 installed flawlessly and worked without any modifications.
Pico is included as a console text editor with SUSE, and it’s very simple to learn.
Also try being a less emotional in your responses, it looks to me like you’re either very defencive or angry.
I just pointed out that installing the Nvidia drivers wasn’t a pain on Ubuntu, and it sure as hell was on SUSE.
Maybe installing the nvidia driver via YAST didn’t work in your case.The alternativ is pretty much the same as on almost any other Linux box with compiler and kernel-sources in place.Simply running:“sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7667-pkg2.run” does it as usual.Only one minor difference on SuSE,run:“sax2 -m 0=nvidia” afterwards so you can activate the 3D-acceleration with SAX,you don’t have to edit xorgconfig and some other files.
running glxgears:!@#$%^@linux:~> glxgears
23052 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4610.400 FPS
25293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5058.600 FPS
25223 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5044.600 FPS
25291 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5058.200 FPS
reveals everything must be running OK
All of the discussion really does prove the point that Linux is where you go to waste time trying to install software.
It is a shame that the Linux community views pissing time down the drain as a “feature”.
“It is a shame that the Linux community views p*ss*ng time down the drain as a “feature”.”
It’s far better than spending time trolling like you are doing.
Installing software in Windows:
– Open FireFox
– Find web site to get program from
– Locate the download link
– Download program installer or zip file
– If zip file, extract and hope it contains an installer.
– If the zip file didn’t include an installer, place the files where they need to go manually and create your own shortcuts.
– If there is an installer, run that, go throught several prompts, and wait for the package to be installed. Promps include but are not limited to:
… o Licence agreement
… o What components you want installed
… o Where you want things installed
… o Whether or not you want shortcuts created
… o What you want to run when the installer exits.
– Remove the installer.
– Total time lost: a lot + steps must be repeated in their entirety for each individual package
Installing software in Linux (graphical):
– Open the graphical package manager.
– Enter root password if required.
– Select the packages you want, use the search feature to help if you want.
– Click the next or install button
– The packages you requested are then installed without needing any further user interaction.
– When the installation is finished, dismiss your graphical package manager and run the software you want.
– Total time lost: Very little
Installing software in Linux (console):
– Open a root console
– Enter root password
– Run package manager with the name of the packages you want installed as arguments, searching can be done easily.
… o With apt-get, use apt-cache search $name
… o with urpmi, use urpmq $name
– Packages get installed without need for user interaction.
– Installer exits, close the root terminal and you’re done.
– Time lost: Even less.
If you feel you absolutely must troll, why don’t you go over to Slashdot instead where your post would be modded down far faster than here. It’s a sad fact that here people don’t have enough votes to keep on top of the trolling problem, otherwise you would already be well on your way to -5 by now.
It is a shame that the Linux community views pissing time down the drain as a “feature”.
linux != installation hell,once installed runs forever.
Sticking with OpenBSD for my server needs.
I think it’s good to have guides for beginners, just why should they install servers at all?
I think it’s good to have guides for beginners, just why should they install servers at all?
That’s what I was thinking. Don’t we have enough email problems as it is without people that don’t understand DNS, SMTP, etc trying to run mail servers? I know people need to start somewhere. Maybe I’m old school to think it should be with a couple good books on the basics.
At work, every desktop machine I have to install using windows involves:
– Windows install (1 hour)
– Windows update : SP2, all patches (2 hours)
– Driver installation (1 hour)
– Norton (1 hour with updates)
– Virus scan (30 minutes) + optional removal of anything thatinfected the machine while windows update was still working (this happens a lot with machines on high-speed connections and retail WinXP)
– Nero (10 minutes)
– Office 2003 (30 minutes)
– Dreamweaver (10 minutes)
– Fireworks (10 minutes)
– Contribute (15 minutes)
– Flash, quicktime, divx players, google toolbar (30 minutes)
– Photoshop (20 minutes)
– Acrobat (20 minutes)
– SSH client (10 minutes)
That’s almost 8 hours! We’ve got a small office, and not enough to hae full distributed unattended installs, but it really does consume a lot of time to install a machine and make it ready for a workstation user.
Whereas, I did install SuSE 9.3 on this box a few weeks back. It took about 1 1/2 hours to get installed and fully configured (nVidia driver installed from YOU without a hitch).
How long did it take to install Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Contribute and Fireworks on SuSE?
“How long did it take to install Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Contribute and Fireworks on SuSE?
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Linux has equivalent applications to a lot of what you have in Windows, including Photoshop. But if you really need those exact applications you can use CrossOver Office: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/ or use Windows in an emulator like Win4lin, VMWare, or if you’re really patient, qemu.
Maybe I’m old school to think it should be with a couple good books on the basics.
Right,here is a link to some good basic and advanced UNIX stuff.
http://www.unix.com/archive/index.php/t-13774.html
I see we have the usual pages of morons posting mindless crap……
Now I’m going to shock the forums and actually post something that relates to the actual topic. I think this how-to is absolutely fantastic. I’ve been looking for something that is more stable and easier to update and manage than my Gentoo rig, and this setup perfectly fits the bill.
Not that there was anything wrong with Gentoo, its just too much work doing everything manually now that I have infant children to take care of….ah the wonders of parenthood
:ROFL: – there’s sysprep, you know